Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mainstream pop performers
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:33, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
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List with subjective and arbitrary inclusion criteria. "Mainstream pop" is not a genre in its own right per se, but just a term which positively or negatively (depending on your perspective) distinguishes pop musicians who have succeeded in becoming famous from pop musicians who haven't -- for instance, there's no major stylistic difference between the music of
indiscriminate. And the referencing here consists entirely of some (but not all) of the artists' AllMusic biographies, which genre-tag them as "pop" rather than "mainstream pop" and thus don't constitute support for a "mainstream pop vs. non-mainstream pop" distinction. Bearcat (talk) 17:22, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Music. Bearcat (talk) 17:22, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Have to agree with Bearcat here. The word "mainstream" makes the inclusion criteria entirely subjective. But I'd even argue for deletion if the title was List of pop performers because the size of such a list would make it completely useless. Pichpich (talk) 18:31, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- it's already edited Cjnava482253 (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:32, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Already edited Cjnava482253 (talk) 07:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- The title isn't the only problem here. Pichpich explicitly said that even if the title were made more general and less subjective they'd still support deletion, because a general list of "all pop musicians" would be too large to be useful. But also, moving pages while they have open AFD discussions about them is not proper process, and neither is creating a whole new alternative AFD discussion that just replicates the page's explanatory header as if it constituted an argument for keeping the page all by itself. Any keep arguments you want to make have to be made in this discussion, not in your own separate forked-off alternative discussion. Bearcat (talk) 17:37, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Already new page here in article. Cjnava482253 (talk) 11:06, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Creator Cjnava482253 (talk · contribs) has moved this first to List of pop performers, then to List of pop music performers (such pagemoves are at best generally discouraged during AfD discussions); they also created the very similar List of pop perfomers (note the misspelling) that has also separately gone to AfD. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:26, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- That article has been speedy deleted per A10 too. This is now the only AfD on this topic to which the article is no longer ]
- Delete Procedurally, this has become something of a mess due to the page moves during the discussion—don't do that (we have had examples of page moves being agreed upon during the AfD discussion and performed at the close, which is the proper way of doing things—WP:SALAT; even just the category Category:English women pop singers contains no fewer than 318 articles at time of writing, and that excludes all the pop performers that aren't English, aren't women, and/or aren't singers (e.g. guitarists). TompaDompa (talk) 20:00, 28 February 2025 (UTC)]
- Delete per the above. No way to maintain a list that is both verifiable and manageable. Eluchil404 (talk) 23:17, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.