Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of years in Pakistani television

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The result was keep. Lots of discussion here about possible article mergers but it was in the realm of hypothetical so any suggestions about the specifics of merging pages should go to another discussion forum to resolve. I don't think an additional relist would influence this outcome as the consensus is, while these articles need work, they should be kept. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:39, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of years in Pakistani television

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While verifiable, I'm not sure if they meet

WP:PRIMARY, 404, unreliable (TV.com), etc. And while not itself a reason to delete, maintenance is horribly deferred on these -- the 2013 list was vandalized in 2020 and no one caught it. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Lists, and Pakistan. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Some of them have enough entries to have a list article such as 2014 in Pakistani television. You can merge short articles together. If they have blue links then verification of what year they were created in can be found in their own articles, no need to have it in a list like this. Also please stop nominating list of this nature. We shouldn't have to keep having the same arguments every time for the same exact sort of thing. Dream Focus 20:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I even pointed out why I opposed a merge: even merged, there's too little verifiable content. The sourcing just isn't there. Further, "lists of this nature" -- you mean like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1928 in American television, which closed as "delete" for literally the same reasons that I brought to this AFD? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes they are saved, sometimes they are destroyed. Its all determined by whatever random people show up to argue. Dream Focus 20:27, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's exactly how AFD is supposed to work. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:29, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- these topics are themselves notable, even if the articles themselves are incomplete (as Wikipedia always is). Information on these are typically verifiable by taking the sources from the relevant pages that are linked to (or could be linked to), and the information in the articles, where present, goes beyond the relevant categories by providing specific dates, etc. These aren't the same thing as the late 1920s American TV articles -- Pakistani TV is very well established in the 2000s, as opposed to it being a fairly new and speculative medium in the US at the time of that set of articles.
matt91486 (talk) 00:19, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Keep all They are not even empty and have listed notable items. They can be kept. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 21:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So a "list" can have only one item on it now? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 21:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep some, merge others. 2005 to 2013 should NOT (!!!) have been spun out and need to be merged back into the parent. The
WP:NOTDIR, however, that does not apply here as some context is provided. No objection to decade articles. This is actually a good idea! gidonb (talk) 00:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Do you have a proposal as to where they should be merged to, or by what criteria some are merged and some kept? Kevin McE (talk) 10:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, merge/redirect to list of years in Pakistani television and a minimum of 10 shows for SPINOFF. Thanks for asking! gidonb (talk) 14:20, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm going to relist this one more week to enable those who want to merge articles to state a) which articles they are talking about and b) where these articles would be merged to. Without specifics, this is an editing task that lies outside of an AFD discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep For now. Proposal by Gidonb can be discussed outside here. D4iNa4 (talk) 05:24, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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