Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Love Jihad (3rd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. !voters generally agree that the subject is notable, but there is no consensus whether this is

(non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 21:45, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Love Jihad

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Non-notable conspiracy theory. It does exist, but I am not seeing significant coverage in reliable sources. Guy Macon (talk) 18:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Guy Macon (talk) 18:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Guy Macon (talk) 18:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Guy Macon (talk) 18:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Conspiracy theories-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

general notability guideline
. Here is a sample:
1. Farokhi, Zeinab (3 September 2020). "Hindu Nationalism, News Channels, and "Post-Truth" Twitter: A Case Study of "Love Jihad"". In Boler, Megan; Davis, Elizabeth (eds.). Affective Politics of Digital Media: Propaganda by Other Means.
  ISBN 978-1-000-16917-1 – via Google Books
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2. Sarkar, Tanika (July 2018). "Is love without borders possible?" (PDF). doi:10.1057/s41305-018-0120-0 – via ResearchGate
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If the article were rewritten to be primarily based on academic sources like the ones above, I don't think there would be any policy or guideline issues. — Newslinger talk 18:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, an NPOV article would be a good thing. "Indian police arrest suspect in brutal video murder". Agence France-Presse. December 7, 2017. Articles from The Wire [1]. The jstor link above is useless, but google site:jstor.org "love jihad" fiveby(zero) 20:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely. The current state of the article (
WP:PROFRINGE to have a Wikipedia article present a discredited conspiracy theory like "Love Jihad" as a real phenomenon. — Newslinger talk 05:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Keep per Fiveby (below). The amount of reliable scholarship available far exceeds what is needed to establish that "Love Jihad" is a notable conspiracy theory under
salting is completely inappropriate here. — Newslinger talk 01:57, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Delete, per
WP:TNT. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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*Speedy Keep Undoubtedly notable subject having received significant coverage by millions of reliable sources.
~~talk) 22:13, 21 September 2020 (UTC)~~[reply
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Delete per discussion below. While it is notable and has received coverage, it is not something that requires separate page.
talk) 18:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Keep Blatantly notable.
talk) 04:08, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Delete I agree millions of sources have covered the subject but their motive to cover this subject is: 1) similar to covering any subject which is related to a popular political or religious POV, 2) to discuss political and religious agenda of a number of political parties, religious organizations and individuals. There hasn't been a dedicated research on this subject so far which would highlight all of the well-known events that have occurred related to the subject. Until there has been enough research, or treatment of this subject more than just a plausible theory or political/religious agenda, I think we should just delete the article. Rustam Fan (talk) 06:50, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing you claimed is a good reason for deletion.
talk) 08:42, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Delete because sourcing is inadequate for significance. "I've told you a million times, Don't exaggerate." -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 08:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How? So far all the deltion votes seem to sum up to "I don't like it".
talk) 08:43, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Keep riduculous to claim there are insufficient sources for a neutral presentation:
Cupta, Charu (2009). "Hindu Women, Muslim Men: Love Jihad and Conversions". Economic and Political Weekly. 44 (51): 13–15.
JSTOR 25663907
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Punwani, Jyoti (2014). "Myths and Prejudices about 'Love Jihad'". Economic and Political Weekly. 49 (42): 12–15.
JSTOR 24480870
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Ramachandran, Sudha (June 2020). "Hindutva Violence in India: Trends and Implications". Counter Terrorist Trends and Analyses. 12 (4): 17.
JSTOR 26918077
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Bhatnagar, Gaurav (October 5, 2015). "BJP, RSS Leaders Caught Using 'Love Jihad' Bogey to Fuel Communal Polarisation". The Wire.

Dhara, Tushar (July 26, 2019). "In Rajasthan, a case of "love jihad" cuts stereotypes of caste and party allegiances". The Caravan.

Ali, Mohammad (October 13, 2014). "U-turn by Meerut girl on 'love jihad'". The Hindu.

Sharma, Amit (October 14, 2014). "Their 'love jihad' centrepiece in tatters, Hindu outfits see plot in Meerut U-turn". The Indian Express.

Strohl, David James (2019). "Love jihad in India's moral imaginaries: religion, kinship, and citizenship in late liberalism". Contemporary South Asia. 27 (1): 27–39.

Tyagi, Aastha (2020). "Love-Jihad (Muslim Sexual Seduction) and ched-chad (sexual harassment): Hindu nationalist discourses and the Ideal/deviant urban citizen in India". Gender, Place & Culture. 27 (1): 104–125.

Saxena, Saumya (2018). "'Court'ing Hindu nationalism: law and the rise of modern Hindutva". Contemporary South Asia. 26 (4).

Waikar, Prashant (2018). "Reading Islamophobia in Hindutva: An Analysis of Narendra Modi's Political Discourse". Islamophobia Studies Journal. 4 (3).
JSTOR 10.13169
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fiveby(zero) 13:29, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and salt It is indeed unclear how the subject should be treated and the jumbling of cases involving "interreligion marriage" and "fraud marriage" even by the reliable sources has made it even more difficult. I also note that
WP:NOTINHERITED. For that we will need much better sources than what we currently have. Azuredivay (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Delete,
WP:TNT and start over due to the many issues at this article.VR _talk 11:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Delete, because the government of India has also confirmed Love Jihad is not defined anywhere under law. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/love-jihad-not-defined-under-law-says-centre/article30736760.ece — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sz786 (talk • contribs)

Keep. The justification for deletion (as a not-notable conspiracy theory) is simply not valid. There is a significant number of RS on this subject, as one can see from the referencing on the page and references provided during this discussion (see above). Just not liking the subject (I do not like it too) is not a valid reason for deletion. My very best wishes (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes GNG. Conspiracy theory or not, this has been in the news almost every week for the past 10 years, so there are adequate sources to meet the notability criteria.
talk) 02:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Comment the topic definitely gets it due media coverage but the article is in bad shape. Its trying to push the POV that its possible rather than it being a conspiracy theory. Not surprisingly the idea as propagated by extreme right wing groups find its inspiration in Mein Kampf [2]. Probably the article fits
WP:TNT case for a complete rewrite based solely on academic sourcing. Roller26 (talk) 14:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Delete and salt per
talk) 17:19, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Strong keep The issue has been largely ignored by English media, but has been significantly covered in reliable vernacular media. For e.g this article from Dainik Jagran Quartzd (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per
WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:26, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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