Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luiza Toshmetova
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to List of Uzbekistan women's international footballers. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 10:58, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Luiza Toshmetova
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WP:SIGCOV at all, nor is there any indication of notability. JTtheOG (talk) 10:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Uzbekistan. JTtheOG (talk) 10:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: as per nom, no sigcov to speak of. However, I am concerned that you only seem to be submitting AfDs (like at least 1 a day!) for women footballers. Wikipedia's gender gap is bad enough as it is. Are you using women's football categories to find articles to suggest for deletion? If so, please consider the possible unintended negative consequences of this. Akakievich (talk) 10:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- WP:NSPORT2022, when a requirement was put in place for sports bios to have "at least one reference to a source which has significant coverage of the subject." I have done this to a couple of editors who created non-notable stubs en masse, and I nominate up to five a day, but this specific user was especially prolific and happened to focus on women's footballers. I try to add SIGCOV when I find it (1, 2, 3, 4), but it's not often. JTtheOG (talk) 10:57, 27 November 2023 (UTC)]
- I see, thanks for clearing that up! If you're targetting non-notable stubs by a single editor, that sounds fine to me. Just wanted to ask the question since you do sometimes see people claiming good faith while evidently using all-female categories (or categories related to a single nationality, sexual orientation, etc etc) as deletion hitlists and I couldn't figure out the pattern behind your deletion work. thanks for the quick reply :) Akakievich (talk) 11:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- I get the gender bias issues, but non-notable articles are what they are, so no reason keeping them around just to score points on a gender parity scale. Oaktree b (talk) 01:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Of course, I agree. But that doesn't mean it's ok to subject articles about women to more thorough scrutiny than those about men. It is a fact of life that some non-notable articles will remain on Wikipedia, so it does matter how we go about finding and deleting those articles. Akakievich (talk) 11:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I can only vote on what's presented to me. Cleaning up wiki is never a bad thing. Oaktree b (talk) 20:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- I never said otherwise. Notice I voted delete before I even asked the question about JTtheOG's strategy (which in this case imo is completely fine and has no bias problems) – in any case, a non-notable subject is a non-notable subject and the article should be deleted. But lots of positive, small-scale actions CAN have an unintended, detrimental _large-scale_ impact.
- Therefore I do think it is worth just asking, because it would allow us to alert a well-meaning user to the possible negative consequences of their actions (if they're unaware) or discuss/monitor/mitigate the larger-scale impacts if they refuse to change their approach. Basically, I think male and female subjects should be treated the same on Wikipedia, and currently that's usually but not always the case. On this AfD there's no problem though, as we have already established :) so I don't see the point in discussing this further, I think we mostly agree and any remaining points we disagree on won't affect anything practical. All the best, Akakievich (talk) 21:56, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I can only vote on what's presented to me. Cleaning up wiki is never a bad thing. Oaktree b (talk) 20:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Of course, I agree. But that doesn't mean it's ok to subject articles about women to more thorough scrutiny than those about men. It is a fact of life that some non-notable articles will remain on Wikipedia, so it does matter how we go about finding and deleting those articles. Akakievich (talk) 11:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- I get the gender bias issues, but non-notable articles are what they are, so no reason keeping them around just to score points on a gender parity scale. Oaktree b (talk) 01:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- I see, thanks for clearing that up! If you're targetting non-notable stubs by a single editor, that sounds fine to me. Just wanted to ask the question since you do sometimes see people claiming good faith while evidently using all-female categories (or categories related to a single nationality, sexual orientation, etc etc) as deletion hitlists and I couldn't figure out the pattern behind your deletion work. thanks for the quick reply :) Akakievich (talk) 11:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 19:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 19:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Zero coverage found, what's used now to source the article is trivial. Oaktree b (talk) 17:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Uzbekistan women's international footballers. BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Nothing found above, in article, or BEFORE with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from WP:IS WP:RS. BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 09:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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