Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mbali Dhlamini

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The result was keep. Decided to Keep given the recent improvements to the article by a team of editors. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:02, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mbali Dhlamini

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South African artist, article is a CV, no evidence of notability per WP:ARTIST - "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors OR the person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique OR the person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work." Also fails WP:GNG. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:00, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and South Africa. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:00, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete few mentions as an artist (name drop in the New York Times among others) but nothing in Getty ULAN, no sources found. Oaktree b (talk) 12:16, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Photography. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:30, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails
WP:TOOSOON; this bio does indicate some upcoming projects which may be covered in RS at a future date.4meter4 (talk) 20:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Netherzone (talk) 16:10, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep I removed the uncited CV material and added inclusion in the Venice Biennale and exhibition at the Washington Printmakers Gallery. I think that might fulfill significant exhibitions. She has won a residency at the Embassy of Foreign Artists and won an award from Javett Art Centre. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:26, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per
WP:ARTIST based on the exhibitions and recognition mentioned by WomenArtistUpdates above. I added another source about her work being included in the JPMorgan Chase Art Collection. TJMSmith (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Weak Keep ~~Delete~~ - I can't verify that she was actually in the Venice Biennale. I searched for her name in the Biennale records but it was not included. I also could not find her in any of the official "collateral" exhibitions. It seems that she was in a concurrent show during the same time as the Biennale. These shows usually do not have the same rigorous curatorial process as the Biennial itself. If someone can find evidence she was in fact in the VB, I may change my !vote. At this time it is TOOSOON for this emerging artist; does not meet GNG or NARTIST at this time; maybe in a few years. Netherzone (talk) 17:42, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article had said that she won an award from the Javett Art Center at the University, this isn't accurate. The source states that the award was given to the Preempt Group Collective, which is facilitated by her and by Phumulani Ntuli. ~~Also, I was unable to verify the JPMorgan Chase Art Collection - was anyone else able to read the source behind the paywall?~~ Netherzone (talk) 21:10, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Try this link [1] via the Wikipedia Library. TJMSmith (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I changed my !vote to Weak K**p from d*lete. I found another notable corporate collection in addition to JPMorgan Chase, the Mercedes-Benz Art Collection. While these are not museum collections, they are important private corporate collections -- I think this puts her over the bar and the article should be kept and continue to be improved. Netherzone (talk) 23:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the improvements to the article and apologies for my mis-reading, and then adding the erroneous info that she participated in the Venice Biennale. Rookie mistake :( WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:49, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No need to apologize, I love the team effort happening here! Netherzone (talk) 01:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:36, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, per improvements made during the nomination discussion. Randy Kryn (talk) 06:01, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:Good to see a rational discussion Victuallers (talk) 08:00, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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