Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mehdi Zatout

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:17, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mehdi Zatout

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Sources are mostly profiles, fight announcement and results, I haven't seen any compelling evidence that

talk) 11:09, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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KEEP - @
WP:KICKGUIDE. Lewolka (talk) 12:37, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Comment:Improve article then, Lewolka. DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 16:16, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment"Kickguide" are not an official guidelines, they are to help us members of the Wiki project. These guidelines are erroneous: The WMC title is given loosely at local stadiums in Thailand (Bangla ect). Winning an ISKA title definitely doesn't make a fighter notable as the organization sanctions low level/non notable events all the time. Same for
talk) 20:54, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Lethweimaster Well I’m not a member of the Kickboxing task force but you are, so if those guidelines are erroneous you’re in a better position to start the change.Lewolka (talk) 10:02, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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What is written at WP:KICKGUIDE is simply to guide Wikipedians in finding notable subjects, as if kickboxing athletes have won certain titles, significant coverage is likely to exist. I don't have problem with the official
talk) 11:13, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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KEEP - He fought for notable world titles: WBC Muaythai, ISKA and ONE Championship Kickboxing (not MMA), which gives him notability. Source Osu .karellian-24 (talk) 16:57, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We have to base our decision on Notability guidelines. Otherwise our discussions have no structure. These titles do not give the subject notability as per
talk) 20:58, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Yes, but there it is not full. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_arts/Kickboxing_task_force .karellian-24 Also for amateur boxing it is even passing with a NATIONAL championship medal. Or medalist in the world championships, World Games, sometimes even European championships of all the sports... (talk) 00:17, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The link you are referring to is
talk) 08:37, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 11:18, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Does not meet GNG.

  1. Tapology stats page Red XN
  2. Sherdog forums post Red XN
  3. "Yahoo News", copied from onefc.com (hosted on FightNewsAsia) Red XN
  4. 404 page from WBC Muay Thai, but non-independent anyway Red XN
  5. onefc.com non-independent Red XN
  6. onefc.com, article repurposed from the earlier onefc.com story copied by #3 Red XN
  7. "AsiaOne", identical to #3 copied from onefc.com Red XN
  8. Sherdog, routine match preview by a contractor for ONE Championship on a site of questionable reliability Red XN
  9. 404 Red XN
  10. Boxemag stats Red XN
  11. Siam Fight Mag, pure Q&A Red XN
  12. Bangkok Post, unattributed copy of The Nation, match preview/interview with opponent, no SIGCOV of Zatout Red XN
  13. 404 page from WBC Muay Thai Red XN
  14. MMA Fighting, passing mention Red XN
  15. MMA.uno 404, likely routine match recap Red XN
  16. mixedmartialarts.com/ONE Championship, non-independent Red XN
  17. ONE Championship, non-independent Red XN
  18. Sport360 retirement announcement, routine fight recap followed by quotes from a press conference, interspersed with content regurgitating or directly plagiarized from the onefc.com profile from #3. onefc.com:

    Zatout, who co-owns Venum Training Camp Thailand in Pattaya, is looking to display the skills that made him a kickboxing and Muay Thai champion in organizations around the globe. [...]
    Zatout got his start in Muay Thai through a group of school friends who were learning at a local gym in his hometown of Noisy-le-Sec, an eastern suburb in Paris, France.

    Sport360:

    Zatout, who co-owns Venum Training Camp Thailand in Pattaya, began training Muay Thai at 10, through a group of school friends who were learning at a local gym in his hometown of Noisy-le-Sec, an eastern suburb in Paris, France.

    Red XN
  19. Wordpress blog Red XN
  20. muaythaitv.com results 404 Red XN. JoelleJay (talk) 22:54, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 18:24, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete after review of JoelleJay's analysis above. Nswix (talk)
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