Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musical fiction

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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:11, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Musical fiction

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Original research--particularly the first sentence. That prose can have rhythm and flow is not new: all good prose is musical. That certain books about musical topics are supposed to be musical is a matter of judgment, which would need serious secondary sourcing. The only sourcing here is a book called "Rock Fiction", which is a collection of stories about rock and roll--a completely different thing. Drmies (talk) 21:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Music. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:42, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom - The article appears to either be
  WP:OR or an attempt at a neologism that did not catch on. Doing searches on the term do bring up a number of results for times the two words "musical" and "fiction" were used next to each other, but these are being used to talk about a wide range of topics unrelated to the claims of this article, such as fiction that is about music, or using music to help teach fiction, etc. Rorshacma (talk) 23:49, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - in agreement with the nominator and previous voter. The article is an attempted
  original research exercise that clumsily messes up prose that is musical with fiction that is about music. Two different things that don't even remotely fit together. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Weak Keep/Non-Deleting TNT: The title is potentially useful as many sources use the term "Musical fiction", such as An Annotated Bibliography and Reference List of Musical Fiction by Kellie D. Brown, Teaching Musical Fiction by Marcin Stawiarski, to name a couple. A simple Google Scholar or Books search reveals a lot of actual sources discussing the genre. It is easily a suitable topic for a comprehensive encyclopedia. However, the page as it stands is pretty subpar, meaning I would not reject a non-deleting TNT and rewrite. Why? I Ask (talk) 13:51, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This is indisputably, as
  WP:NOTCLEANUP keep if no one's done any work on it when this is closed. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep As stated above, AFD is not cleanup. I also found these sources that may be used to expand the article 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. With that being said I think there is a fine line between music as fiction and music in fiction which should probably be discussed in the article if possible.★Trekker (talk) 13:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:36, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Arms; requires article improvement, not deletion. Iseult ^Δx parlez moi 03:12, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I was gonna weigh in 'keep' but a review of the piece and of the comments above have convinced me we're looking at pure play OR here: this is the shortest essay I've ever seen, but it's an essay. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:11, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Possibly a notable topic, but most of the sources don't actually relate to the term defined in the article (a genre of fiction in which music is paramount). The sources are primarily about the usage of music in fiction without defining "musical fiction" as a genre.
  WP:OR article is salvageable. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 18:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep, I'm finding
  WP:SIGCOV in line with the sources reported by User:Arms & Hearts and User:StarTrekker, including whole books discussing the topic. SailingInABathTub (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep per the many, many, many academic sources on the topic including entire books and annotated bibliographies. Given how small the article currently is,
  WP:BEFORE and their votes should be read with that in mind. Vladimir.copic (talk) 00:26, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
  ]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's

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