Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pete Ewing

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 07:57, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Ewing

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I don't think this quite meets

WP:MUSICBIO. Provided sources are a music magazine that doesn't list editorial policies (and has a "Contribute" button that just opens up an email draft), a Sydney Morning Herald announcing a concert by the subject in a short blurb in what appears to be a local entertainment section, and an AllMusic entry with no information other than a track listing. I was unable to find anything better searching online and on Rock's Backpages. signed, Rosguill talk 20:56, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep Hi Rosguill. I must contest this nomination. I am the one maintaining this article. I have been away from this article these last few weeks because I started working on another one, but I will get back to this one immediately. Pete Ewing is a very notable artist. He is well known in Australia and has been offered a record deal here in the US. During his visits here, he had been deported twice due to the Trump administration deporting Australians just to show they weren't deporting Mexican immigrants. Regardless, a U.S. Senator vouched for him and Pete was given a visa back into the country to finish his album. Please check out his music. It's incredible. He comes from a long line of musicians called the McKinnons as well as the Casanovas from Ireland/Scotland/Italy, a family of minstrels of 500years descent. I have been getting my references together and I will make an update this evening when I get home from work to include those citations asap. Please do not delete this article. I will also review the WP:MUSICBIO guidelines to make sure the article is formatted accordingly. Thanks for the notice. Sincerely, Olivettilly (talk) 22:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The most important thing for you to do when arguing that the article should not be deleted is to provide more citations to coverage of the subject in reliable sources. signed, Rosguill talk 22:41, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Olivettilly. I cannot find anything that would make the subject notable. But because you have said you are working on the article, I will wait a few days before casting my opinion. Aoziwe (talk) 08:43, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for giving me this time to work on this article. I'll be working on it now for the next couple of hours. I'll be including citations as well. Thanks for your cooperation. Cheers. Olivettilly (talk) 12:01, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:03, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I am still struggling to see how the subject is notable. Aoziwe (talk) 06:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am on the fence, but may circle back to vote after some more development

talk) 14:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep(duplicate !vote --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 16:33, 1 April 2019 (UTC)) and this is why Pete Ewing and his brother William Ewing played as a band on the Australian soap opera, Neighbours which has international acclaim and still running. For Season 1, the two of them were cast on the show as the live band called Red Cotton. Not only did they play live on the show, all the music performed is original music written by him and his brother, and not just once but for the entire season. A total of episodes 8 episodes.[reply]
-This is criteria that meets Wikipedia: Notability (music) "No. 10: Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable movie, included on a notable compilation album, etc - "William and the Tells are a four piece indie group from Melbourne fronted by siblings William and Pete Ewing, with their friends Ben Callaghan and Sam Walsh." List of Neighbours characters (2012)
IMDb actor profile lists 8 episodes on Neighbours IMDb Actor profile: Pete Ewing:: * "Ramsay Street's new house band". Herald Sun. The Herald and Weekly Times. 23 September 2011. Retrieved 26 September 2011.
-No. 11 .... Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.---- Pete Ewing music has been on rotation at RRR (Triple R Radiostation, an influential major music and culture independent radio show in Melbourne, Australia.) He also has his own sub-segment within the JVG Radio Method broadcast every Sunday at 3pm called "What Are You Doing, Ewing?" "Included in the news is a sub-segment. Peter Ewing presents What Are You Doing Ewing? In this dubious use of precious airtime Peter tells us what he's been doing" and has played live on the radio show.JVG Radio Method
-No. 2. ....Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. ----This applies in a way... He was invited to play at Americanafest in Nashville for one of the largest country music festivals in the world Sydney Morning Herald Olivettilly (talk) 18:28, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • The
    #10
    criteria is a good argument, although note that that guideline also says if this is the only claim [to notability], it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article
  • IMDb is not a reliable source as it is crowdsourced, and the Herald Sun piece you've linked is not significant coverage.
  • Looking up 3RRR, it's described as a "community radio station", leaving me uncertain as to whether or not it meets criterion 11. Ewing being a regular on a radio show is a positive indicator, but it would be good to see that reported in an independent source.
  • Playing at a music festival in no way is equivalent to being on a national music chart.
All told, you've made a stronger case for keeping, but I'm still uncertain whether it's appropriate to have a separate article for Ewing. signed, Rosguill talk 20:42, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 15:47, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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