Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy Ingram
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Roy Ingram
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Ingram was a competitor in the Olympics who did not win a medal, as such he does not meet our inclusion criteria. Neither of the two sources here have any text on him, they are just sports tables. I did searches in google, google books and google news archives. I found other Roy Ingrams mentioned, such as one who was a mayor of a small place in Alabama. As such there is no reason to assume people would be looking for this Roy Ingram and not the mayor in Alabama, so this is not a good cnadidate for redirect. John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:43, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Boxing, and South Africa. Shellwood (talk) 19:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to WP:CHEAP. There could be sources from Ireland, seeing as he was born there, so I'll ask the Irish WP. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)]
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- Keep Thanks to the efforts of users Park3r and FOARP, I am striking my redirect vote and changing it to keep. There's now enough evidence of notability to, at the very least, give him the "benefit of the doubt" about meeting WP:GNG. I think a variety of sources from the pre-internet age is pretty convincing. Papaursa (talk) 04:00, 28 June 2022 (UTC)]
- Keep Thanks to the efforts of users Park3r and FOARP, I am striking my redirect vote and changing it to keep. There's now enough evidence of notability to, at the very least, give him the "benefit of the doubt" about meeting
CommentKeep I found this article from Supersport, which is aPark3r (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2022 (UTC)]
- Both of the sources you give come from the same website, which would mean they count as one source. That is not enough to meet WP:GNG. The books I saw didn't have what I would consider significant and independent coverage of him, but I could have missed something. Papaursa (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2022 (UTC)]
- Finding any online-accessible RS from a South Africa is a minor miracle nowadays, finding two separate unpaywalled and non link-rotted online sources is exceedingly unlikely. Which is I needed to do a more than cursory search in Google Books. Park3r (talk) 11:54, 11 June 2022 (UTC)]
- Finding any online-accessible RS from a South Africa is a minor miracle nowadays, finding two separate unpaywalled and non link-rotted online sources is exceedingly unlikely. Which is I needed to do a more than cursory search in Google Books.
- Both of the sources you give come from the same website, which would mean they count as one source. That is not enough to meet
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero Parlez Moi 14:19, 17 June 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - The two sources listed above put this into "benefit of the doubt" territory. This is particularly because the sources include an extensive quote from a book called "The Fighters" by Chris Greyvenstein - a book that exists and does appear to mention Ingram extensively, though the full page cannot be seen. It appears that sources do exist per WP:NEXIST. Additionally he appears to have been the subject of a very short, poorly OCR'ed story in Variety magazine in September 1926 - If a London magazine wrote about his retirement in South Africa due to bad hands my inclination is that there is likely a lot else out there about him. FOARP (talk) 16:29, 27 June 2022 (UTC)]
- Keep Per newly discovered sources. They are enough to satisfy GNG. Smartyllama (talk) 17:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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