Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shu Shine F.C.

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:53, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shu Shine F.C.

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of notability under GNG or SNG. A defunct local football club. North8000 (talk) 14:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 03:06, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 16:13, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep A top-flight team (and thus not "local") with coverage from the pre-internet age. I'm not sure what the article does beyond confirming its one-time existence, but I think it should stay, although barely. Anwegmann (talk) 22:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of football clubs in Zimbabwe, in which this club is mentioned. Fails GNG due to lack of SIGCOV. Frank Anchor 19:51, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changed to weak keep per the sources presented by SportingFlyer, which establish notability. Frank Anchor 00:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of football clubs in Zimbabwe.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:51, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Poor article, notable football club. This is routine coverage from their 1993 season, showing there's also more out there - also tells us which stadium they played in. This article on an old player notes he was their coach. This article is an interview with a player who talked about how he got them promoted to the first division. I can't read this article due to a paywall but there's at least a mention there. Via Google books, in 1991, Horizon wrote an article about how Shu-Shine were promoted, about their first game, and about their sponsorship, but I can't get the link to work. There's enough here for a stub article, and it's at least implied that this team got pre-internet coverage in the early 1990s. SportingFlyer T·C 21:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: this was closed as a redirect by a non-administrator who reverted their close when I asked for this to be draftifyed, it appears as if it is still a redirect. SportingFlyer T·C 21:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not implying an answer to this question about those sources, but as a side note the criteria isn't that there are facts that can be pieced together from numerous places to create the start of an article. It's that there is in depth coverage of the subject in a couple of articles. (maybe one would be enough) Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 22:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm aware. The interview with Tavaka Gumbo clearly talks about the club's glory years. I can only access a small part of the Horizon article, but it also clearly talks about the club from the time they were in the top flight, including a page header discussing their promotion. I think
WP:GNG is likely satisfied on those alone. The routine coverage also demonstrates this was a league - the most important in the country! - which would have been covered in newspapers during the time Shu-Shine were in the top flight. Top flight teams are generally but not necessarily always notable. This one seems like it has been significantly covered even though it would have been all pre-internet. SportingFlyer T·C 22:50, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Sorry about that. Liz got to it and it's back to normal now. -- asilvering (talk) 22:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Yes, the closure was reverted and the changes to the article as well. This was not a good discussion for an NAC closure as opinion is divided.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is notable that F.C. has left discernible footprints on Google, as evidenced by available information. Their players were acknowledged as Soccer Stars of the Year. It should be noted that not every country enjoyed international coverage during their era, unlike the extensive coverage available today. DIVINE 05:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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