Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Western Star (Bessemer, Alabama)

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The result was merge to Trib Publications. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 01:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Western Star (Bessemer, Alabama)

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No reliable sources indicating notability. Linked website has not been updated since 2009 and site does not appear to be for a print newspaper. The newspaper "The Western Star" is actually Canadian: http://www.thewesternstar.com/ Andrew³²⁷ 07:10, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: There are several newspapers in North America that go by that name; I know of one in southwest Ohio. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 03:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails
WP:V as to its very existence (past or present) outside of a stale website. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:35, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Delete: per
WP:V rationale. Vrac (talk) 14:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Comment. Trib Publications, the publisher of this paper, owns 38 papers in 4 states (as of April 2014) and is potentially notable. See e.g. [1][2][3][4] [5][6][7]. I suggest merging and redirecting this article to a new one about the publisher. --Arxiloxos (talk) 14:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Weekly newspapers in the United States have generally been considered notable, especially if they have been around a while. I don't have a source for how old the Star is, but I remember seeing it sold in racks as far back as the late 1970s. It is a print newspaper published each Wednesday, but does not have a functioning website of its own — yeah, that's strange in this day and age, but that is at the direction of Trib's (elderly) owner, Bob Tribble. There is a Facebook page, though: [8] . Maybe I could go shoot a photo of a copy of the print edition. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 03:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Inadequate references to reliable sources for notability. ^BE _CK ^Y _SA ^{Y L}E _S 14:16, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails
talk!) 14:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Comment: Many newspapers (dozens?) were/are named "The Western Star"; the article creator did the appropriate thing by parenthesizing locale in the title. Pax 03:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I can envision a small town weekly paper abandoning a costly website in favor of increasingly popular free social media. Pax 03:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Newspaper previously named The Bessemer Advertizer, and has been around since 1949. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Раціональне анархіст (talk • contribs)

Actually, under various names, it goes back to 1887 if one clicks through the predecessor links. SpinningSpark 09:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, Keep. (Though it does appear the thing is running-on-fumes at present, even a defunct paper can historically notable). Pax 08:59, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I'm sympathetic to the nomination, but the existence of predecessor papers back to the late 19th century which could be included, as well as some evidence of notability I could find (I added two cites to article), suggest to me this is a better candidate for improvement instead of deletion.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 05:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that information about the paper should be preserved, so how about redirecting to an article about parent company Trib Publications? I think there are enough sources to cover the parent company, just not all of its publications. Andrew³²⁷ 11:17, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I agree that merging this to
WP:PRESERVE. SpinningSpark 03:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply
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talk!) 18:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Since we are re-using content from this article at Trib Publications, merge/redirect, not deletion, would be the indicated result.--Arxiloxos (talk) 19:32, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, merge, the existence of a parent article is not, by itself, justification for deletion. SpinningSpark 21:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just created Trip Publications to preserve all useful information from the article in question. Andrew³²⁷ 15:00, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you, that is correct, good catch. Andrew³²⁷ 20:31, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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