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Category:Medieval defenses

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename Category:Medieval defenses to Category:Medieval defences. --Xdamrtalk 23:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Medieval defenses to Category:Medieval defences
Nominator's rationale: Since almost all items relate to Europe (and many to Great Britain), while none at all refer to America, British orthography should be used. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with nominator. And in general, British English is more estethical. Debresser (talk) 23:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • or even aesthetical :) Support, for reasons given in nom. Grutness...wha? 00:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • And mediaeval would be even more aesthetic (in Wikipaedia, perhaps).
        talk) 01:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
        ]
  • Support per nom.
    talk) 01:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Forum hosting

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename all per nom. --Xdamrtalk 23:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Forum hosting to Category:Internet forum hosting
Propose renaming Category:LGBT-related forums to Category:LGBT-related Internet forums
Propose renaming Category:Political forums to Category:Political Internet forums
Nominator's rationale: Rename - current names are ambiguous. Renames match parent
talk) 21:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Depends on the spell checker. Some will not care about capitalization while other demand Internet. So for your problem, I don't think it matters. If I decide in chime in with a official opinion, I'd go with Internet over internet. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't care which way this goes but convention here is to capitalize it. See for instance the nationality sub-cats of
    talk) 00:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:University of Maryland alumni

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Keep. With the reported changes, I'm not convinced that the category is the same as it was at the start of the discussion. Currently it is more like a container category which is what some of suggested in the discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:27, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:University of Maryland alumni to Category:University of Maryland, College Park alumni
Nominator's rationale: merge:This is redudant. In the area, people refer to the "University of Maryland" for the campus in College Park. The specific name is "University of Maryland, College Park", so I'm fine with the category being spelled out. The problem is that it is redundant to have two cats, and the entries in
talk) 17:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
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  • I went through all the articles in "University of Maryland alumni" and moved the ones that are University of Maryland, Baltimore and UMBC alumni to those categories. So all remaining should belong to University of Maryland, College Park. Strikehold (talk) 18:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think then that
    talk) 18:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Oppose a straight merger -- There are several subcategories for the various colleges. People should only be included directly in this category according to the capnote, which states that it is "For alumni of the University of Maryland system for whom no specific campus is specified." A simple merger will make a complete nonsense of the category. If the individuals in this category can have a college identified, they should be moved individually to the correct subcategory. If you can be sure that all the individuals REALLY are from UMCP, you should have explained that in the reasons (above). If so, the merger would move them all to UMCP alumni, BUT the subcategories need to be reparented to Category:Alumni by university or college in Maryland. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would not "make nonsense of the category", because as I have said above, I have already gone through all of the articles, and all have since been moved to their appropriate alumni cat. All subcategories already do belong to Category:Alumni by university or college in Maryland. UMB is the other school that people sometimes just call "University of Maryland", and in the early 1900s that was its full name. However, it is a professional school only, with only certain graduate programs that are not offered by UMCP, such as law school and medical school. So, if you know the timeframe of attendance and/or the field of study of an alumnus, it is possible to know the school of which they are an alumnus, so this category is redundant. Strikehold (talk) 05:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't mean that you, by moving the articles whose sources confirmed a particular campus to the correct sub-cat, did anything wrong. I was referring to whomever moved the rest of the articles whose sources don't identify the specific school. In the faculty article in question, the sources say "University of Maryland" and do not specify a campus. The person who moved that article to the CP sub-cat engaged in OR by deciding that it had to have meant CP. The utility in categorizing people whose exact school is undetermined is that a) it at least attaches them to the correct overall institution and b) it may inspire an editor to find a source that specifies the campus.
    talk) 17:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Then it sounds like there needs to be a diffusion notice on the category to help encourage editors to relocate articles as they are placed here. If the choice is between no category and a generic category for an alumnus then we should go with the generic one.
    talk) 22:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Boxers at the Commonwealth Games

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge Category:Boxers at the Commonwealth Games to Category:Commonwealth Games boxers. --Xdamrtalk 23:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Boxers at the Commonwealth Games to Category:Commonwealth Games boxers
Nominator's rationale: merge into the one with naming pattern consistent at Category:Commonwealth Games competitors by sport Mayumashu (talk) 13:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Governors-General of Malta

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename Category:Governors-General of Malta to Category:Governors and Governors-General of Malta. --Xdamrtalk 23:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Governors-General of Malta to Category:Governors of Malta
Nominator's rationale: Rename. This Category has 25 people in it, of which 24 served as "Governors." One person served as Governors-General only and one served under both titles.
Talk 06:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Yes now days, but the Governor-General term was not always used in this way.
Talk 04:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Category:CC (Seireki)

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The result of the discussion was: Rename all per nom. --Xdamrtalk 23:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: Similar to the
WP:WAF were we should maintain an out-of-universe perspective, these categories should be named after the name of the series instead of the fictional time lines the series are set in. Farix (Talk) 04:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Hertha BSC Berlin managers

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete/Rename per nom. --Xdamrtalk 23:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose deleting
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: Category:Hertha BSC managers also exists in alignment with the club article name Hertha BSC and all managers have been moved to the alternate category ClubOranjeT 00:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why not propose a rename/merge of everything from
    talk) 01:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Sure, why not....how do I do that then, now that this is started?--ClubOranjeT 07:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have taken the liberty of adding them.
talk) 12:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Hertha BSC Berlin players

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Category:Hertha BSC Berlin players. --Xdamrtalk 23:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Hertha BSC Berlin players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category:Hertha BSC players also exists in alignment with the club article name and all players have been moved to the alternate category ClubOranjeT 00:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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