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Category:Jethou

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Limited contents and scope for growth. --Xdamr^talk 21:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. OCAT. Small category for a private island that is not likely to be expanded. There is a List of tenants of Jethou which should provide ample navigation and currently provides significantly more information that is not available from a category. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. While I generally agree- the island is so small as to not really warrant its own category - I have managed to expand the number of articles in the category, so part of the justification above is misleading. Grutness...wha? 01:30, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Misleading only as much as the assumption that this is defining for the individuals who were added. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Let's keep it, and Vegaswikian will surely keep an eye on it. In the case of a geographic entity, I feel that even a small category has a right to exist. Debresser (talk) 23:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Surely you know I will not watch a category for maintenance purposes. Also if I follow your argument, any settlement with, let's say a building, should have a category. I think that is overkill. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:06, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom, and based on the contents the list of tenants serves much of the proposed purpose of the category, drawing together the island's tenants.
talk) 00:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Keep This is a well-defined category for a geographic feature within the parent
WP:CLN's mandate that lists AND categories should work together in synergistic fashion, with absolutely nothing in WP:CLN stating that "the 'category camp' should not delete or dismantle Wikipedia's lists, and the 'list camp' shouldn't tear down Wikipedia's category system—doing so wastes valuable resources. Instead, each should be used to update the other." WP:CLN never states anywhere that a category should be deleted because a list is "better". Alansohn (talk) 19:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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There is no evidence that there will ever be another article related to this island, so that argument cuts both ways. Should a sudden rush of Jethou-related articles suddenly materialize the category can be re-created. CLN is not a mandate, despite your mischaracterization of it as such. No category is mandated by CLN and CLN clearly states that there are times when a list is superior to a category.
talk) 19:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Additional articles have been created recently in this category and there is no reason other than your foot stamping insistence that it is unlikely there will never be any more.
WP:CLN never mandates that a category be created or deleted, but does specify that they should co-exist. It does specifically reject the disruptive deletion of any category or list with the argument that the other is better, rather clearly stating that stating that "the 'category camp' should not delete or dismantle Wikipedia's lists, and the 'list camp' shouldn't tear down Wikipedia's category system—doing so wastes valuable resources." If this were only followed even in spirit, so much wasted time and effort would be freed up to build this encyclopedia rather than destroy what we don't like based on arbitrary preferences. Alansohn (talk) 19:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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And clearly the articles that were added could be removed since they are not defining for that individual and are a brief mention in the articles and not of any significance for the individuals. So it is not clear that these inclusions meet the guidelines of
WP:COP especially the caution to limit the number of categories in people categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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(ec) There are currently four articles in the category.
talk) 21:31, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Barack Obama presidential controversies

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The result of the discussion was: Delete as empty. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merging Category:Barack Obama presidential controversies to Category:Obama Administration controversies

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Duplicate categories. Only one of the two needs to exist. The proposed target is the older of the two, but I have no preference on which is kept. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The merge target matches the structure of the parent Category:United States presidential administration controversies. The lone article in Category:Barack Obama presidential controversies is not even a controversy, so deletion would probably be a better choice here. Alansohn (talk) 02:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The presence of the article in the nominated category is suspect, so doing what you suggest would be OK. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 00:12, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Alansohn.
talk) 02:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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And I've removed that sole category entry. Since nothing in

talk) 02:40, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Agree with both merge or deletion. Debresser (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Remixes

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete - there is no theoretical limit to the number of people who can remix a particular song. The typical CD single includes several mixes by several different producers. Categorizing songs by people who choose to remix it strikes me as overcategorization.

talk) 22:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Agree with nominator. Debresser (talk) 23:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have notified

talk) 14:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Category:People associated with Bedford College

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:People associated with Bedford College to Category:People associated with Bedford College (London)

Propose renaming Category:Alumni of Bedford College to Category:Alumni of Bedford College (London)

Propose renaming Category:Academics of Bedford College to Category:Academics of Bedford College (London)

Nominator's rationale: Rename all Since these categories were created the institution article has been moved to

Bedford College (London) due to the existence of other Bedford Colleges (including another in the UK). The categories should match this and avoid confusion. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Agree per nominator. Debresser (talk) 21:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Renames to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:22, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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American river shipwrecks

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merging and renaming Category:Shipwrecks of the Mississippi and Category:Shipwrecks in the Mississippi River to Category:Shipwrecks of the Mississippi River

Propose renaming: Category:Shipwrecks of the Ohio to Category:Shipwrecks of the Ohio River

Nominator's rationale: New names reflect the full name of each river and are less likely to be confused with potential state-only shipwreck categories. Also, the "of the" styling matches styling of many other shipwrecks categories and avoids the implication that the wrecks remain in place. (A wreck that occurred in one of the rivers but was salvaged is no longer "in the river", for example.) Both Mississippi categories, however, should be merged regardless of the final name decided, because both cover the same topic. — Bellhalla (talk) 20:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The suggested names also match the style of the extant Category:Shipwrecks of the Missouri River — Bellhalla (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with all of the nominators nominations. Debresser (talk) 21:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agree per Debresser. Plasma east (talk) 22:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Merge/Renames to match bulk of the parent Category:Shipwrecks of the United States. Alansohn (talk) 02:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support both suggestions. Maralia (talk) 19:44, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:XxxHolic characters

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:36, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The category only has one article. TTN (talk) 19:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:VJs

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/Rename to Category:VJs (media personalities). Vegaswikian (talk) 22:42, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:VJs to Category:Something

Nominator's rationale:

talk) 17:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Rename to VJ (media personality). Alansohn (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Rename to talk) 14:35, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Taxes

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The result of the discussion was: Merge per nom. While there were points made about keeping this as is, the significant amount of overlap and the lack of parent categories that were appropriate for the content really support the merge as nominated. If anyone really thinks that we need to leave a redirect, drop a note on my talk page after the bots move the articles and I'll create it. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merging Category:Taxes to Category:Taxation

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Currently only contains articles that belong in
T/C) 14:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Agree and leave a redirect. Debresser (talk) 21:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and amend notes & parents to reflect repurposing. A sensible sub-cat for the Taxation category. Johnbod (talk) 15:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Note that until recently (and as the Category:Taxes page still says), the category was about taxes (plural of taxis) in biology. Someone has moved those articles to a new Category:Taxes (biology). I don't know if this is relevant, but it seemed worth noting. Shreevatsa (talk) 03:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jamba!

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:36, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jamba! (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Delete - discussed once previously under the name
talk) 06:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - the less evidence the better of
talk) 08:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Joke characters

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Joke characters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Delete - we deleted a category for fictional characters used for comic relief some time ago but I can't recall its exact name to find the old CFD. The reasons for deleting that apply to this similar category, specifically that fictional characters can serve a wide variety of roles within a given fictional narrative. Deadly serious characters sometimes crack the best jokes or are the butt of humor and one-note comedy characters are used to advance the dramatic narrative. Fictional characters frequently evolve over their history, starting out as "jokes" and later becoming integral to the dramatic story.
talk) 05:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Was it Fictional comic-relief characters? Anyway, delete, for the reasons given by nom and the same reasons given in that discussion. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 05:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it was. Forgot the hyphen.
talk) 06:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - seems to be a recreation of the unanimously deleted
talk) 13:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Delete as undefined. Debresser (talk) 21:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Video albums

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The result of the discussion was: Rename per nom. Very interesting discussion. The nomination points out that there was no standard for these categories. The one proposed did receive support and while there were some questions, nothing that I read was really an objection. So there was consensus for a rename. Having said that, there may well be a need for additional cleanup. If said cleanup affects some of these newly renamed categories, this decision should not be viewed as an impediment to renominating small subsets of these categories for rename as part of a larger consensus scheme. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Video albums by artist

Category:3LW DVDs to Category:3LW video albums

Category:A*Teens DVDs and videos to Category:A*Teens video albums

Category:Aerosmith videos to Category:Aerosmith video albums

Category:Alice in Chains videos to Category:Alice in Chains video albums

Category:Amon Amarth DVDs to Category:Amon Amarth video albums

Category:Alice Nine video releases to Category:Alice Nine video albums

Category:Amy Winehouse videos and DVDs to Category:Amy Winehouse video albums

Category:Ashanti (singer) DVDs and videos to Category:Ashanti (singer) video albums

Category:Ashley Tisdale music videos and DVDs to Category:Ashley Tisdale video albums

Category:Asian Kung-Fu Generation videos to Category:Asian Kung-Fu Generation video albums

Category:Atomic Kitten DVDs to Category:Atomic Kitten video albums

Category:Ayumi Hamasaki DVD releases to Category:Ayumi Hamasaki video albums

Category:B'z video releases to Category:B'z video albums

Category:Bananarama videos to Category:Bananarama video albums

Category:Björk DVDs to Category:Björk video albums

Category:Bon Jovi videos to Category:Bon Jovi video albums

Category:Bond (band) DVDs and videos to Category:Bond (band) video albums

Category:Brandy Norwood videos and DVDs to Category:Brandy Norwood video albums

Category:Britney Spears DVDs to Category:Britney Spears video albums

Category:Bruce Springsteen videos to Category:Bruce Springsteen video albums

Category:Celine Dion DVDs and videos to Category:Celine Dion video albums

Category:Cher videos to Category:Cher video albums

Category:Christina Aguilera videos to Category:Christina Aguilera video albums

Category:Dannii Minogue videos to Category:Dannii Minogue video albums

Category:David Bowie videos to Category:David Bowie video albums

Category:Delta Goodrem DVDs and videos to Category:Delta Goodrem video albums

Category:Depeche Mode videos to Category:Depeche Mode video albums

Category:Destiny's Child videos to Category:Destiny's Child video albums

Category:Duran Duran videos to Category:Duran Duran video albums

Category:Eagles videos and DVDs to Category:Eagles video albums

Category:Electric Light Orchestra music videos to Category:Electric Light Orchestra video albums

Category:Europe videos to Category:Europe video albums

Category:Franz Ferdinand videos and DVDs to Category:Franz Ferdinand video albums

Category:Garbage (band) videos and DVDs to Category:Garbage (band) video albums

Category:Girls Aloud DVDs to Category:Girls Aloud video albums

Category:Glen Campbell videos to Category:Glen Campbell video albums

Category:Godsmack DVDs to Category:Godsmack video albums

Category:Guns N' Roses videos to Category:Guns N' Roses video albums

Category:Hitomi Yaida video releases to Category:Hitomi Yaida video albums

Category:Incubus videos to Category:Incubus video albums

Category:James Taylor videos to Category:James Taylor video albums

Category:Jennifer Lopez DVDs to Category:Jennifer Lopez video albums

Category:Jimmy Buffett DVDs and videos to Category:Jimmy Buffett video albums

Category:Kalomoira DVDs to Category:Kalomoira video albums

Category:Kate Bush videos to Category:Kate Bush video albums

Category:Kiss DVDs and videos to Category:Kiss video albums

Category:Kisschasy DVDs to Category:Kisschasy video albums

Category:Linkin Park DVDs to Category:Linkin Park video albums

Category:Mad Season videos to Category:Mad Season video albums

Category:Madonna videos to Category:Madonna video albums

Category:Metallica videos to Category:Metallica video albums

Category:Mika DVDs to Category:Mika video albums

Category:Miyavi videos to Category:Miyavi video albums

Category:Mortification (band) DVDs to Category:Mortification (band) video albums

Category:Mother Love Bone videos to Category:Mother Love Bone video albums

Category:Mylène Farmer DVDs and videos to Category:Mylène Farmer video albums

Category:Namie Amuro videos to Category:Namie Amuro video albums

Category:Nana Mizuki DVDs to Category:Nana Mizuki video albums

Category:Nelly Furtado DVDs to Category:Nelly Furtado video albums

Category:Nirvana videos and DVDs to Category:Nirvana video albums

Category:Oasis music videos to Category:Oasis video albums

Category:Olivia Newton-John videos to Category:Olivia Newton-John video albums

Category:Pearl Jam videos to Category:Pearl Jam video albums

Category:Pet Shop Boys videos to Category:Pet Shop Boys video albums

Category:Phish videos to Category:Phish video albums

Category:Pink videos and DVDs to Category:Pink video albums

Category:Prince videos to Category:Prince video albums

Category:Queen (band) videos to Category:Queen (band) video albums

Category:R.E.M. videos to Category:R.E.M. video albums

Category:RBD DVDs to Category:RBD video albums

Category:Reuben videos to Category:Reuben video albums

Category:Ricky Martin Music Video to Category:Ricky Martin video albums

Category:Roy Orbison videos to Category:Roy Orbison video albums

Category:Rush (band) videos to Category:Rush (band) video albums

Category:Skid Row videos to Category:Skid Row video albums

Category:Slipknot DVDs to Category:Slipknot video albums

Category:Soundgarden videos to Category:Soundgarden video albums

Category:T.A.T.u. DVDs to Category:T.A.T.u. video albums

Category:Take That videos to Category:Take That video albums

Category:Tears For Fears videos to Category:Tears For Fears video albums

Category:The Human League DVDs and Videos to Category:The Human League video albums

Category:The Smashing Pumpkins videos to Category:The Smashing Pumpkins video albums

Category:Tiësto DVDs to Category:Tiësto video albums

Category:Tori Amos videos to Category:Tori Amos video albums

Category:U2 videos to Category:U2 video albums

Category:Van Morrison videos and DVDs to Category:Van Morrison video albums

Category:"Weird Al" Yankovic videos to Category:"Weird Al" Yankovic video albums

Category:Wet Wet Wet videos to Category:Wet Wet Wet video albums

Category:White Lion videos to Category:White Lion video albums

Category:Winger home videos to Category:Winger video albums

Category:X Japan video releases to Category:X Japan video albums

Category:Yanni videos to Category:Yanni video albums

Category:ZZ Top videos and DVDs to Category:ZZ Top video albums

Nominator's rationale: Rename - As Otto4711 points out here and here, the music video categories are a mess. I propose the phrasing "video albums" because it covers two things: collections of music videos and concert broadcasts. It specifically doesn't include individual music videos, and it makes no claim about what format (such as DVDs) these videos appear in. It seems like a good naming format to me, but other possibilities are welcome. (FYI, if this nomination passes, the video albums categories Category:AC/DC video albums, Category:Black Sabbath video albums, Category:Bruce Dickinson video albums, Category:Deep Purple video albums, Category:Faith No More video albums, Category:Foo Fighters video albums, Category:Hilary Duff video albums, Category:Iron Maiden video albums, Category:Katherine Jenkins video albums, Category:Led Zeppelin video albums, Category:Mariah Carey video albums, Category:Mike Oldfield video albums, Category:Alanis Morissette video albums, Category:Snoop Dogg video albums, Category:Joss Stone video albums, Category:Tenacious D video albums, and Category:The Rolling Stones video albums would all stay the same. If we go a different direction, these might change too.)--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I closed a single nomination for the Ricky Martin video category to join it here. My concern with "video albums" is that I'm uncertain that a concert video constitutes a "video album". We have no
talk) 04:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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The phrase "live album" suggests "video album" is reasonable for concert videos. To me, anyway.--Mike Selinker (talk) 04:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support all - 'video album' seems a reasonable shorthand for the material collected here (something with images in some format that would be called an album if recorded on an audio CD). This is assuming that all the listed ones are albums as opposed to 'video songs', which might be the best corresponding name for individual pieces such as Thriller: cf
talk) 08:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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At 14 minutes in length, I'd argue that
Thriller (music video) could make the leap to a video album category. I can think of no other articles that are solely about an individual hit song's video, though I haven't done much of a search.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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After a 10-minute search I too have not found any other articles solely about a video for a particular song, but there are plenty of substantial subsections (eg in
talk) 15:43, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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If such an article is in an "(artist) songs" category, then I don't think it needs an "(artist) videos" category. Seems redundant to me.--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, just putting
talk) 16:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I suggest holding off on creating redirects for the videos section pending a discussion on the category talk page.
talk) 22:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Except redirects are italicised in categories, and would be something like 'Scream (music video)'. However my appetite for creating redirects which might be promptly deleted or recategorised is limited, and I shall take this sage advice.
talk) 11:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Ok. The term "video albums" doesn't make sense to me, but I'm tired at the moment. Take Category:Yanni videos, these are actually live concert films? I'm sure there are more that are concert videos. So where does something like this fit in? ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 23:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In my rationale above, I say that concert videos are video albums, in the same way that the audio recordings of the same concerts are called live albums. So concert videos would go in the video albums categories.--Mike Selinker (talk) 04:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Would "Video releases" be a better term ? It would cover video compilations, concert videos and Michael Jackson's Thriller video. Cjc13 (talk) 10:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I like that term. Because what if all live concert videos weren't made into albums. And another example is that this one,
Yanni One on One, is a video release, but neither a live concert nor album, more of a documentary, but a release nonetheless. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 13:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I considered that possibility, but it seemed to me that "video releases" covers individual song videos, which this nomination is trying to prevent.--Mike Selinker (talk) 19:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How does one tell whether a 'live concert video' is or is not an album? The Yanni template lists the concert videos under 'live albums' which I would accept without a second thought (until now).
talk) 11:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I think that eventually we would give all of these "video albums" (or whatever) categories. That would take a while, though.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What about
talk) 23:00, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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I have trouble picturing a collection of MTV-style videos as a home video. Some more possible names: long-form videos (per
Grammy_Award_for_Best_Long_Form_Music_Video), full-length video (per "full-length album"). Let's find something we can agree on so that we don't end up with a "no consensus" result.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Suggest use the term "Long-form Video releases". Cjc13 (talk) 12:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Video covers

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Images of video covers. Consensus was to rename. The target was open to discussion. Since the result is a rename, nothing is really lost by selecting among the options. This decision does not prevent someone from renominating if they feel that the chosen target is unacceptable. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Video covers to Category:Video cover images

Nominator's rationale: Rename - current name is ambiguous, as it could refer to music videos for
talk) 02:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Support – there is also
talk) 09:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Might I suggest
talk) 13:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Support Rename to more accurately reflect content of category. Alansohn (talk) 18:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Glossary of German terms

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merging Category:Glossary of German terms to Category:German words and phrases

Nominator's rationale: Merge. No way a category can be named "glossary". The inthention of the creator was to distinguish German loanwords from German words used in English texts, but still "alien" to English language. - Altenmann >t 00:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Merge to more accurately reflect the contents of the category. Alansohn (talk) 02:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Merge I made my point earlier at Talk:Gesamtkunstwerk#Loanword?. Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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