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Category:American football dual-threat quarterbacks

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 03:13, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:
Subjective category, can easily argue that every single starting quarterback in the NFL is a running threat. Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:29, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Keep The story of American football, i.e. The National Football League is one built on evolution. There was a time when the
    outside linebackers(Category:American football outside linebackers), each with a Wikipedia category of their own. The evolution has continued with more NFL teams looking for that quarterback who is a threat to pass or run.[1][2] Even college football programs are looking at high school players as to whether or not they can pose a dual-threat to opposing defenses. Rivals.com, one of the most prominent sites that rate high school athletes has a separate category for the dual threat quarterback.[3] While I agree with User:Eagles247 that the term dual-threat quarterback can be subjective, I strongly disagree that one can easily argue that every single starting quarterback in the NFL is a dual threat. Read the article "Dual-threat quarterback" and you'll find fewer than two dozen quarterbacks mentioned; and those that are considered dual-threats are supported by objective data (rushing yards, touchdowns, passer ratings etc.) that support the designation. An internet search of the term "dual-threat quarterback" turns up dozens of articles from pro football related cites[4][5][6][7][8][9] showing the growing trend in American football of interest in and the evolution towards the dual threat quarterback. Therefore providing a separate category for the dual threat quarterback will enable users to browse sets of related sports pages and probably long overdue. «Marylandstater» «reply» 06:35, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]

References

  1. ^ Barbato, Matt. "Will the NFL Eventually Become a Dual-Threat Quarterback League?". bleacherreport.com. Bleacher Report Inc. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  2. ^ Gola, Hank. "Dual-threat QBs like Robert Griffin III the wave of the future in the NF". nydailynews.com. New York Daily News. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  3. ^ "Rivals.com 2020 Dual-threat quarterback". rivals.com. Rivals. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  4. ^ "Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson: Pass-first dual-threat QBs". espn.com. ESPN. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  5. ^ "2019 Top Dual-Threat Quarterback Recruits". 247sports.com. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  6. ^ "Cowboys Work out 5 Players, Including Dual-Threat QB: Report". heavy.com. Heavy .sports. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  7. ^ "Lamar Jackson sets records in dual-threat performance". nfl.com. National Football League. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  8. ^ "Is Cam Newton the greatest dual-threat QB in history?". nfl.com. National Football League. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  9. ^ "Gators have to be ready for serious dual threat quarterback". cbssports.com. CBS sports. Retrieved 29 December 2019.
  • Tom Brady led the Patriots in rushing for a game in 2015. Does that make him a dual-threat QB? Categories are not meant to be subjective, and there is no clear definition of a "dual-threat quarterback". Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Lol! I don't think anyone would ever accuse Tom Brady of being a dual-threat quarterback. But as for a clear definition check out the article: "Dual-threat quarterback". «Marylandstater» «reply» 18:43, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • The article says a dual-threat quarterback is one "who possesses the skills and physique to run with the ball if necessary". Possessing better skills than other people who play the same position is not something that can be defined in an encyclopedic setting. You admitted this category is subjective, so it fails
        WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. Eagles 24/7 (C) 18:58, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
        ]
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Category:Bus operators in the United Kingdom

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 5#Category:Bus operators in the United Kingdom

Category:Artificial mythology

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 03:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:
WP:OVERLAPCAT at least. Brandmeistertalk 20:25, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Theravada Buddhist texts

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 5#Category:Theravada Buddhist texts

Category:Maps by source

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 03:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful intermediate category. Only real content is OpenStreetMap‎. Rathfelder (talk) 17:28, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Former cities in the Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: keep.
(non-admin closure) hueman1 (talk) 17:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other subcategories under Category:Former subdivisions of the Philippines. hueman1 (talk) 15:22, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, the proposal would create inconsistency with sibling categories containing cities in countries, in the tree of Category:Former cities. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I see. If that's the case here, then I should close this discussion right away. Thanks by the way. —hueman1 (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cloud infrastructure attacks & failures

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. MER-C 03:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: If the main article is Cloud computing issues, then this seems to be the name, but other suggestions could be as well. Brandmeistertalk 17:46, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 08:52, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Transgender non-binary people

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The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 03:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't seem to be any difference between these two categories. Vaporgaze (talk) 09:09, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Fisheries

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The result of the discussion was: split selectively to Category:Fishing. MER-C 03:26, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The contents of the category are currently a mixture of individual fisheries (set category) and fishery-related concepts (topic category). The topic category part should be split into Category:Fishery, and Category:Fisheries should only contain entities of named fisheries. I'm not sure, though, what the difference would be between Category:Fishery and Category:Fishing, so an alternative suggestion would be to selectively upmerge the topic content to Category:Fishing. Paul_012 (talk) 22:57, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Jewish engravers by nationality

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 10#Category:Jewish engravers by nationality

Category:Planned Economies

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. MER-C 03:23, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only has two members, North Korea and Soviet Union, and the Planned economy article says that there is dispute whether the Soviet economy was planned or command. If kept it will need a C2A rename to Category:Planned economies. Le Deluge (talk) 14:13, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep So add the missing countries - most of the WarPacs, for starters. Also, why is a command economy not also a planned economy? (it's a subset, not disjoint). The lead article is pretty poor, with much of it unsourced and a bias to it overall that's very American (an inability to tell socialism from communism, for one). Andy Dingley (talk) 14:21, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per
    WP:SMALLCAT, it should only contain articles about the economy of countries that never had a non-communist regime. For example Economy of Poland does not qualify for the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • I am not against splitting the article, but if it is not split then Economy of Poland really does not belong here because the article is almost exclusively about the current economy. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict) Keep and populate -
    Command economies is a redirect to the main article here, but there should be scope for adding articles on the economy of Cuba and of Walsall Pact countries until 1989. Category:Command economies might be a better name, but this would require the main article to be renamed. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Bridges over the Kharkiv River

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 03:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article in it. There is no need for a dual merge, the article is already in Category:Bridges in Kharkiv. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Actors from Dedham, Massachusetts

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 5#Category:Actors from Dedham, Massachusetts

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