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Category:Na'vi

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: "navi" is not a valid language code. The collaborative value of a category grouping users who have a basic understanding of a constructed language invented for a film is questionable. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:25, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment it would depend on the language community, if it were as active as the Klingon speakers or the Sindarin/Quenya speakers, or Esperanto speakers. It does have the IETF code "art-x-navi" so it would seem there would be some users. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 20:32, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete as a wrong category type for its purpose. If anything it should be
    Na'vi language just now.) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Category:User en-cñ

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 08:38, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 4, then recreated out-of-process one month later. The reasons for the original deletion appear to still be valid. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Polo clubs

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The result of the discussion was: merge all.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:28, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per
WP:SMALLCAT, all have only one or two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Keep all part of an established hierarchy of categories, and isn't polo increasing in popularity, so cats all have potential to expand. PamD 20:13, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is not an established tree, there are only 10 country categories including the above 6 which are heavily underpopulated. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge per nom. All talk about cats hav[ing] potential to expand is meaningless; this has been at CfD for two months (when one would expect it to recieve the most attention) and still haven't been populated. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Commercial seafood

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:45, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: merge/rename, ambiguous characteristic, how should we distinguish commercial edible fish from non-commercial edible fish? All edible fish in these categories is traded and sold. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Sensible solution. No Great Shaker (talk) 11:32, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Other taxa are not segregated in this arbitrary manner. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:21, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Makes sense, including the new category Category:Edible echinoderms that fits the scheme. --AlienFood (talk) 08:54, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I'm neutral on the matter, but aren't the vast majority of fish edible? Is this really that defining of a characteristic for a category? Inter&anthro (talk) 19:28, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fair question, but that requires a separate discussion about the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. In fact I think a better argument could be made for reverse merging Edible X to Commercial X, or even deleting some or all as
    WP:NONDEFINING. As mentioned above, nearly all fish are edible (from guppies to sharks), yet not all have commercial operations (e.g. devoted industries and/or specialized fishing techniques). A species of fish may be eaten occasionally or ceremonially by some people, but not farmed or hunted on larger scales. Many marine and freshwater fish are commercially caught around the world (often for human consumption) rendering the categories (if fully populated) enormous, practically useless and largely redundant to Category:Fish taxa. --Animalparty! (talk) 21:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Support No way can we judge whether over centuries different species have been commercially exploited. Rathfelder (talk) 12:24, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reverse-merge in light of Animalparty's !vote. Commerical is a lot more vague than edible, although personally I do not have a strong opinon on either, and both categories could do with a healthy purge. Another option is to rename into something such as Category:Aquatic species that are commercially fished or Category:Aquatic species that are commercially caught for "X", if there is a consensus for a name change. Inter&anthro (talk) 22:46, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There are some arguments against your proposed categories. Many marine species that are used by humans are neither fished nor caught but farmed, e.g. salmon, algae, oysters. --AlienFood (talk) 07:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose commercially fished sealife is not only about human edible sealife. There's other things that are fished and turned into fertilizer and animal feed and jewelry and other products -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:52, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Presumably you support reverse merge then? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • That doesn't make sense either. There are many human edible sealife that is not fished commercially, even if they are traditionally eaten. They may be not commercially viable due to population size, habitat, being an endangered species and thus illegal, etc. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (as nom) I am neutral on the merge direction. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Reverse merge doesn't make sense as fish and mollusc species might be edible but are not used commercially, e.g. endangered species. --AlienFood (talk) 07:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose most fish/molluscs/crustaceans/echinoderms are edible (i.e., humans can gain calories from eating them without being poisoned). Some of those that are poisonous can be detoxified with appropriate preparation (is
    WP:DEFINING. There is some gray area with "commercial"; commercial could cover a spectrum of species sold in global markets for millions of dollars annually to species that a subsistence fisherman might occasionally sell to their neighbors. However, I think "commercial" is more manageable as a defining characteristic than "edible". I would be inclined to delete the "edible" categories, but included articles shouldn't be simply recategorized as "commercial" without confirming that the recategorization is appropriate. Also, note this previous deletion discussion:Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 December 10#Category:Edible cephalopods. Plantdrew (talk) 02:16, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]

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Category:Political party youth groups in Northern Ireland

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Category:Fishing in Belgium

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:44, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: delete per
WP:SMALLCAT, only one article and not specifically about Belgium. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:47, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

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Category:Rules of National Basketball Association

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Category:Film series based on Valiant Comics

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Category:Unofficial Shazam films

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Category:Animated Flash (comics) films

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Category:Super ninja2 accounts

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Category:Drafts about video games

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:47, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: I don't see a need for two of these categories.
talk) 12:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Support, makes sense. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Concluded webcomics

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:01, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Ugh, why do we have a category for "Webcomics that have had a conclusion, as opposed to going on indefinite hiatus." (and a similar category for Webtoons)? We don't have categories for concluded TV shows, book or game series, and other entities. So either we are missing a big chunk of categories for 'concluded media', or this needs to go. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support As well as deleting
    WP:CRYSTAL as there is no way to truly know whether something is permanently concluded. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:58, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Comic strips by genre

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Category:Political comic strips

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Category:Video games based on the Joker

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Joker (character) in other media and Category:Batman video games (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:
WP:SMALLCAT only two members. Merging to the other parent categories is not needed since Category:Batman video games is a subcategory of all of them. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:52, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Support per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per rationale. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 16:34, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:WarnerMedia

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The result of the discussion was: keep.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:05, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: As the merger of WarnerMedia and Discovery finished on April 8, 2022, the category should be merged. Ridwan97 (talk) 02:53, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Different company and history; that's not how mergers work at all, and there are companies in here that will not and cannot be a part of WBD's history. It's better to go through one-by-one and build the categories from there.
    chatter) 17:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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  • Oppose merge. The predecessor company has its own article, and so a separate category is justified (though many articles will be in both cats, of course, but that's ok) UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:33, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Discovery, Inc.

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The result of the discussion was: keep.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:05, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: As the merger of WarnerMedia and Discovery finished on April 8, 2022, the category should be merged. Ridwan97 (talk) 02:53, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Different company and history; that's not how mergers work at all, and there are companies in here that will not and cannot be a part of WBD's history. It's better to go through one-by-one and build the categories from there.
    chatter) 17:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Oppose merge. The predecessor company has its own article, and so a separate category is justified (though many articles will be in both cats, of course, but that's ok) UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:33, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:WarnerMedia networks

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:46, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: All former channels of Discovery and WarnerMedia now under the Warner Bros. Discovery umbrella. Ridwan97 (talk) 02:53, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Different company and history; that's not how mergers work at all, and there are companies in here that will not and cannot be a part of WBD's history. It's better to go through one-by-one and build the categories from there then let cats that are no longer in use be deleted without speedy intervention. Slow down, please, and let official corporate hierarchies become clear.
    chatter) 00:18, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Taxa named by X

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The result of the discussion was: delete all (nominations merged).
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:17, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: 
WP:NOTDEFINING to the taxa: the author is redlinked and category is only populated by a few articles. The author does not appear to have described any other species. Limited potential for growth. We have unanimously addressed these several times previously (here here and here, others) (and the creator of this cat is certainly aware of those discussions, but continues disruptively to create these).  For more info about this and related categories created by this user, see discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life/Archive 49#Bulk category creation.  UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:31, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Kinloch law enforcement

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category contains a single article, Kinloch, Missouri, of which only a paragraph is about law enforcement. The Kinloch Police Department did seem to be the subject of a few notable controversies before it was dissolved in 2018, but I don't see how it could possibly need its own category. Apocheir (talk) 00:02, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per
WP:SMALLCAT UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
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