- CLSA (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)
well-known, influential, and privately held company that clearly satisfies the notability requirement, documentable sources
867xx5209 01:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Do a google or yahoo search on the key words: CLSA and "Hong Kong" (to distinguish it from potential other uses of the initials C,L,S,A) and you get approximately 100,000 entries. How is that neither significant or notable? Do a similar keyword search on most other Wiki entries and see how many instances you retrieve by comparison.
- 202.82.31.75 03:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The admin who deleted this without discussion needs to explain the reasoning.
- Chance in HK 03:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I deleted this because the article satisfied
WP:CSD#A7 of the speedy deletion criteria. The article had been prodded previously with no objections. — Anas talk? 05:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC) [reply ]
- Endorse Google hits are not a measure of notability. Please read up on ]
- Counter-Argument Fine, but do a little RESEARCH of google hits to investigate the web-based articles themselves and decide whether a subject is notable or not. Isn't that what an encyclopedia requires: research? Or is that too much bother?867xx5209 07:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- How 'bout you do the research and provide the actual links rather then leaving this to other people? You are the one who wants this undeleted after all. ]
- Comment I am the user who tagged this article with
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- Comment to the Comment Admin should look into this user's obsessive activities with regard to the aforementioned Ulrich article. In Wikipedia nomenclature, the user is a classic TROLL in the repeated and persistent misuse of Wikipedia's processes. This 72, who seems to change IP addresses every week, (why? to avoid yet another Admin block?) ought to find better, more constructive use of what s/he alleges on own talk page to be a Mensa-level intelligence. Perhaps 72 could contribute content, edit articles, or add links rather than looking for ways to vandalize, er - speedily delete legitimate entries. 867xx5209 07:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Counter-Argument as per above to Spartaz.867xx5209 07:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse deletion per Spartaz and the fact that the users requesting review are puppets, in some way/shape/form. --tennisman 14:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Counter-Argument The one who requested the CSD, 72, "believes" puppets are involved. You're basing your argument on alleged beliefs, not facts. If we apply this line of reasoning, we would ignore your argument in tallying the level of "consensus". Why? because how do we know you're not a puppet of Spartaz?867xx5209 07:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Counter-Counter - If I was a sock of Spartaz, I would not say "per Spartaz"> I would just repeat his comment, which is what all of the inclusionist DRV requesters here are doing. --tennisman 14:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- overthrow as an incorrect use of speedy, without any comment on actual notability. The speedy reason given is "not assert significance". The first sentence of the article is: "CLSA is an award-winning brokerage house covering the Asia-Pacific Markets from a headquarters in Hong Kong. " That is a clear assertion of significance. If speedy is overused, it puts the trustworthiness of the procedure at risk. We shouldn't cut corners in deletion. DGG 20:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong overturn. i agree with
WT:CSD#A7 Scope again for a longer discussion of the general issue. DES (talk) 00:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC) [reply ]
- To DGG and DES: I placed a
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- I gather from this that you are agreeing with and extending what I said, not arguing against it?DGG 19:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I admit that I might have been a little trigger-happy with deleting the article. I was initially hesitant but deleted it because I thought it was just a recreation of a unopposed deletion; I should have checked the previous deleted version and noticed that it had a different creator. I agree with taking this to ]
- Affirmative ... my stressed
TROLL in this matter, as alleged by this sockpuppet User:867xx5209?)
- By all means, I endorse restoration and immediately taking it to AfD for for unsubstantiated claims of notability ... but it's obviously "too much bother" (to use their own words) for this particular author to do it themselves. :-)
- As for the above comment by User:Anas, the jury is still out on whether or not "different" creators are involved, since I cannot access the edit history of either incarnation to confirm ]
- Overturn and list at AfD - there is an assertion of notability so the fuller discussion of an AfD is appropriate.
TerriersFan 02:15, 24 June 2007 (UTC) [reply ]
- Overturn and list at Afd for full discussion without (one hopes) users sniping at one another: umpire the ball, not the player. — Athaenara ✉ 22:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Overturn and list at AFD per DES. I am concerned that the lines DES cited might make the article look a bit promotional, but if the awards are true or significant, there is a clear assertion at least. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Stong Overturn to Allow Time for Introduction of References and Citations
- Rationale: Notabiity for Feed Article to CLSA Demonstrated: I recently established notability for Gary Coull, CLSA's co-founder, through links to three detailed, online obituaries in London's Financial Times and The Times newspapers as well as in FinanceAsia magazine. (Thanks to those who subsequently formatted the additions properly.) If a company's co-founder is notable, it is easy enough to do the same for the company, which continues after his death and has even more online references than he had.867xx5209 07:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- FYI, User:867xx5209, "those who subsequently formatted the additions properly" in
TROLL that you accused on the article's talk page as having " not much useful in the way of content or language skills to contribute to Wikipedia" and " getting admins in cohoots to delete the article" ... you're welcome, BTW. — 72.75.85.234 11:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC) [reply ]
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