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August 18

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 18, 2015.

Konfeit

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
Konfyt. Deryck C. 12:57, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

WP:FORRED; fruit preserves are not exclusive to cultures that speak Urdu. Steel1943 (talk) 00:14, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

But wouldn't this translate to Confit? --BDD (talk) 14:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Murica

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 13:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

There's no compelling reason for this redirect to the Spanish mid-sized city. There is, however, a fairly compelling alternate target:

American patriotism. A web search for Murica returns millions of results (I know, I know) and scads of actual, mostly reputable news sources that use the term. It's almost always used as a way of referring to American patriotism. The prior redirect was to Stereotypes of Americans and had no reason to point there; this proposed target is much more in line, according to sources, with what a typical reader is expecting when they type in "Murica". Red Slash 02:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Keep plausible typo. -
    ChampionMan1234 02:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget to 'Murica as an even more plausible typo. -- Tavix (talk) 02:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - However, I have a pretty hard time in figuring out what exactly it should link to. Clearly, this is a mocking term that's used both by some Americans as a kind of self-deprecation (akin to 'redneck', I suppose) and also as a negative comment on the downsides of how extreme nationalism among religious U.S. white conservatives gets. A plausible case can be made for linking it to '
    American patriotism', and any number of articles, though. Perhaps it's best to just leave it as going to nothing? CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:33, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget to
    R from alternate spelling}} since it is sometimes spelled that way -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget to 'Murica as alterante spelling. Vanjagenije (talk) 07:46, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to
    computer 13:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget to 'Murica with a hatnote to Murcia. It's a plausible misspelling but the proposed target is better. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC) struck per Si's comment below and my own further down[reply]
  • Yes. that would make sense if the article 'Murica existed, which on my system it does not, even though it shows as blue. Si Trew (talk) 21:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh it does as a wiktiomary éink but I don't think that is helpful. Delete. You want to know a word, look in a dictionary.
WP:RFD#D2 Si Trew (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]
It's not confusing or nonsense because they're being directed to a place that covers the topic they've searched for. -- Tavix (talk) 21:39, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, it goes to a place they are probably
WP:ASTONISHed to arrive at. Si Trew (talk) 05:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]
Do you have one in mind? -- Tavix (talk) 21:39, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well,
talk) 21:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]
Or Mercia or Maurice or Morris or Moroccan. I mean, either it is or it isn't. I just think this is best left to the search engine, hence calling for deletion. Si Trew (talk) 05:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it's just me or
WP:ASTONISHing to me. Since 'Murica is just a soft redirect to Wiktionary, we would, in effect, have a cryptic double redirect were we to retarget there. Si Trew (talk) 05:27, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Retarget to 'Murica as an R from alt spelling. Not sure a hatnote to Murcia is needed. Sideways713 (talk) 11:16, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as {{
    trout myself for not checking the target first. 'Murica is a wiktionary soft redirect; I assumed we actually had an article about the boisterous patriotic American stereotype. I sure we could have such an article but we don't, but we do have an actual article for which this is a plausible typo. It would also be a double redirect if it pointed to a soft redirect. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
It's not really a misspelling though, it's an {{
R from slang}} or both. But since it's essentially a double redirect I still have my doubts that it should be anything. I realise I am in the minority: So was Hitler when he started. (Joke) Si Trew (talk) 23:32, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]
That's the strangest demonstration of Godwin's law I've seen in a while. I meant that it's a misspelling of Murcia. It is, of course, not a misspelling of "'Murica". Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:24, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Ivanvector. I was the nom of the previous RFD discussion; Ivanvector's comment basically sums up my thoughts. That, and per the Wiktionary entry wikt:America, it doesn't look like the version of this word without an apostrophe an the beginning is an acceptable alsmg version of "America". (This is a bit odd since merica is listed, but it is what it is, it seems.) Steel1943 (talk) 16:02, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 23:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the conclusion of the last RfD. If you want you can add a hatnote at Murcia, but I don't think it's needed. Thryduulf (talk) 14:38, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Democratic

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 28#Democratic

U mad

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 28#U mad

Big Ear

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Ohio State University Radio Observatory. --BDD (talk) 13:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what to do with this. When I found it, somewhat had made it into an article that only had a Taxobox. I reverted it back to its original state as a redirect, but I don't see it in its target. I'm not sure what to do with it, so I've brought it here. Compassionate727 (talk) 15:50, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget both (because The Big Ear is also a redirect) to
    European Champion Club's Cup (both redirects' current target via double redirection) is a trophy with handles that look like ears; according to the article it has picked up nicknames which allude to this in several languages which are not English. It's therefore not useful to English readers to point it at the trophy, and the original target is better. The IP attempting to create an article here is a repeat vandal. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:40, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget to
    computer 14:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Redirects to
TV5 (Philippines)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
List of TV5 Network, Inc. TV and radio stations#Television stations and delete, respectively. --BDD (talk) 13:26, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

Delete per

enjay36 14:41, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

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ניטשה

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:24, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per

WP:R#D8 which states that obscure synonyms are unlikely to be useful. -- Tavix (talk) 14:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

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Stage Races

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep. Even though the active pool of RfD participants have changed, we're still split between race stage and road bicycle racing#Stage races as the best target for this redirect. Deryck C. 13:04, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Different or not? 333-blue 09:16, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, or is it a race on a stage, or a race of stagecoaches? Probably not, but for example the Wells Fargo and other stagecoaches definitely aimed to be the fastest way to the West. Si Trew (talk) 21:47, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Redirect to Road bicycle racing#Stage races. Seems to be the only thing specifically called that.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 05:11, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Adequately explained at the target article, which says, "In bicycling and running events, a race with stages is known as a stage race." So it's just just bike races. --BDD (talk) 15:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per Godsy (along with
    Stage race). To answer the nominator's question, yes, I think they're different. One is referring to a type of race ran in stages, and the other is talking about the stages themselves. Since a "stage race" is referring to the actual race type, let's take them to a section that talks about that. BTW: I just added a wiki-link from that section to race stage. -- Tavix (talk) 19:47, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
WP:RFD
has changed slightly since the previous comment in this nomination, and the consensus might benefit from some new eyes looking at this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 13:56, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per BDD. The term is most commonly used for bicycle racing these days (I'm biased) but certainly has uses in other sports: a
    set index since it currently only really deals with road bicycle racing, but we could instead probably have a pretty decent article summarizing stage races in other sports. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:52, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget to
    computer 14:43, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Biblical Propaganda

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:24, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This seems like an awfully specific target. I would think that the redirect term would itself have other possible uses.

T
13:55, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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Other liqueurs

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 26#Other liqueurs

Mike Delta

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as

Victor Charlie → Viet Cong and Whiskey Hotel → White House) because they've both entered popular usage to refer to those specific targets. However, this NATO phonetic alphabet spelling is not widely used either for the U.S. state or anything else on MD (disambiguation). 58.176.246.42 (talk) 01:36, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

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Tony South (Paralympian)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 16:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tony South is the primary article, so the disambiguation appears unnecessary to me. If another "Tony South" arises in the future, the current article would be moved back to the redirect page. There is nothing in the history, so I can't see the purpose of it being there now. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:19, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The redirect is the result of a page move occurring immediately before this nomination, so it's very likely readers will look for this article at the old title. Also, there's nothing wrong with the redirect; the person covered in the target article is indeed a Paralympian. Merely being "unnecessary" would not be sufficient reason to delete this. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 01:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the subject of the target is a Paralympian, so the redirect is correct -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:54, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - plausible search term, no motivation for deletion has been suggested (nor can I discern any). WilyD 09:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the above, {{R from move}} and {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}. Being "unnecessary" is never sufficient reason to delete a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 09:20, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above reasons.
    computer 11:57, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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DZMM-TV

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:18, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's no mention of DZMM-TV in the target article, even the change of its call sign to such. The only ones mentioned there are

enjay36 01:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Liberal Theory of State

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:15, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect doesn't seem specifically identified at State (polity) or Sovereign state. I cannot find a good option for retargetting. Steel1943 (talk) 00:55, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

**Disambiguate as thefreedictionary lists several meanings.

computer 12:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
]

Also, thefreedictionary is a Wikipedia mirror. Or a Wiktionary mirror. Actually I'm not sure, but it definitely uses our content. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 12:17, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@
computer 13:28, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Kussmall Meier disease

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 17:02, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unlikely misspelling of "Kussmaul-Maier disease" Cyrej (talk) 14:54, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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