Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 3

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:46, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Konkani Dictionary → Konkani language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Misleading as the target is not a dictionary, and doesn't contain any content about dictionaries. There are brief mentions of individual dictionaries across various articles and it's best to let the search engine reveal them. – Uanfala (talk) 20:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:08, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete As per nom.JPL549 (talk) 11:45, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as potentially confusing to readers --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:50, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's

talk page or in a deletion review

). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was Retarget Pontic linguistics to Pontic Greek, keep others. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:48, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Flemish linguistics → Flemish  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Pontic linguistics → Pontic#Linguistics  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Bengali linguistics → Bengali language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Misleading as neither their targets, nor apparently any other article, contain any content about the linguistics either of the language/s or in the regions. Bengal studies is a potential target for the last redirect, but it doesn't have any relevant content at present. – Uanfala (talk) 17:55, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep
  Pontic language). I'm not a linguist, but I think the claim that these articles don't "contain any content about the linguistics" is only true when one understands "linguistics" in quite a narrow sense. Statements like "There are four principal Dutch dialects in the Flemish region" or "The linguistic lineage of Pontic Greek stems from Ionic Greek via Koine and Byzantine Greek" or "Dictionaries from the early 20th century attributed slightly more than half of the Bengali vocabulary to native words" (all taken from the lead sections of the targets) are statements about linguistics, even if they don't get into the complexities of morphology or syntax. As such, though our coverage of linguistic topics pertaining to these languages could no doubt be improved, the articles on each language are not altogether unhelpful. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:06, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]
  • Well, I didn't addresss this point in the nomination, because I thought it was self-evident. Of course, any language article is, trivially, a linguistics article (with a reminder that
    German linguistics, whose target (German studies) contains some content about the discipline itself. – Uanfala (talk) 00:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    • I don't really agree. I think that while some readers might take the redirect to imply that the target discusses the academic discipline, others are just as likely to assume that it discusses the sort of things covered by that discipline (in the way that
      German history are not primarily about the disciplines by those names, but rather deal with the topics that work in those fields deal with). – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:21, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply
      ]
      • I'm finding it hard to imagine that there might be users who won't be able to tell the difference between language and linguistics and would use a fancy term they don't know to search for something there's no way they can't know. And I don't think your analogies are helpful: "history" is ambiguous in a way that "language" and "linguistics" aren't; and afaik
        English literary studies. – Uanfala (talk) 22:32, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply
        ]
• Keep/Retarget per Arms & Hearts. Thryduulf (talk) 23:11, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]