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June 4

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 4, 2023.

Draft:Symphonic Cinema

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The result of the discussion was keep.
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:00, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Useless draftspace redirect that was generated from my non-controversial page move. Speedy deletion per R3 was contested, G6 was rejected. Merko (talk) 23:35, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep harmless, doesn't need to be touched. J947 † edits 23:41, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per J947. A7V2 (talk) 00:38, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per
    WP:RDRAFT. Consensus is that, while usually unnecessary, such redirects are harmless and it's not worth cleaning them up. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:15, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    WP:RDRAFT is completely irrelevant to the redirect in question. Merko (talk) 20:54, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
You're right, in that this redirect targets another page in draft space, but it will apply if/when the target is moved to mainspace (or will be deleted if the draft is deleted). Regardless, the same principle applies- this is an R from move and is harmless. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:49, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Dee Gees

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:01, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

This is an alias for the current target, but users are not served by bringing them to the top of that article. The alias was used specifically for the live album Hail Satin, which was its original target until an IP boldly retargeted it. Suggest that it should be retargeted back to Hail Satin where users will find the most content discussing the term. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support retarget to Hail Satin. I missed the retarget, it makes more sense to redirect to the only album they used the alias for, which is what I did in the first place. Ss112 23:03, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to
    MOS:BOLDREDIRECT). A7V2 (talk) 00:41, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Iron(III) carbonate

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 12#Iron(III) carbonate

Villa Guerrero, Coahuila

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on
"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 04:00, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

The redirect title isn't mentioned in the target article and should be deleted.

talk) 19:39, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Srebrenica genocide.

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:00, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Was apparently created by moving the redirect

Flag of the District of Columbia. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:32, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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MVV

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Wrong venue, but cons is clear, so....
(non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 18:51, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

This redirect should be moved to the disambiguation page, as none of the topics are particularly "outweighing" in notability. Mirrortemplar (talk) 18:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Planet Zero (song)

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The result of the discussion was keep.
(non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 18:57, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

No need for a redirect when the song is the title track of the album.

oops 17:43, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

While I would agree under most circumstances, I offer a counter argument: Say this article's title never existed in the first place. Who would even know there was another to search for, given that this is the only one with any disambiguation? They would only see
oops 00:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
I don't follow. If there were an article for the song and there were no other use of "Planet Zero", then the article about the song would exist at the base name, and "Planet Zero (song)" would still be a valid {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} redirect. If the existing content about the song existed at a different base name, say because it was on an album where it wasn't the title track, then this would the base name would redirect there, and this too would still be a valid redirect (albeit less useful under those circumstances). Mdewman6 (talk) 05:54, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Cormac MacCarthy

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 18:58, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

There appear to be sources that spell the 12th-century King of Muenster

WP:PTOPIC for this term with respect to long-term significance, though if I had to pick one, I would lean towards picking the King of Munster rather than the 19th Lord of Muskerry. As such, I think it would be best to dabify this redirect so as to disambiguate between the two notable Cormac MacCarthys. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 16:04, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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KSGA-LD

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:19, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not a KJLA translator; doesn't deserve separate article Mvcg66b3r (talk) 15:55, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Al Frankenstein

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 12#Al Frankenstein

Category:Test for category redirects

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 11#Category:Test for category redirects

Cult scale

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:01, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The target does not mention any notion of cult scale, which presumably would be used to rank cults from benign to extremely dangerous. Pichpich (talk) 19:34, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

At the end: "cults being on the continuum, from OK cults that are benign and where you have informed consent, to the unhealthy, destructive" PuppyMonkey (talk) 19:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's true, but it implies that the BITE Model is meant to be a scale through which Hassan and others typologize cults, which isn't the case. Because of that, I think that "Cult scale" redirecting to it is a bit misleading. --Jacquesparker0 (talk) 22:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 † edits 03:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:45, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. and Jacquesparker0. Veverve (talk) 13:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:M/R

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:17, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:M is Wikipedia:Mediation. This redirect has no plausible retarget, and the current target makes little sense. Merko (talk) 22:18, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on IP's suggestion to retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. There's no reason for anyone to expect this to point to move review, given that
    WP:M does not relate to moves. It's good for shortcuts of the format "A/B" to have "AB" twins when possible, but the converse is not true. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 03:38, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget to
    Wikipedia:Move Review. I was initially thinking that this could also make sense for "move requests", but I see that's a dab at the top of the page at Move Review. So it all works out. - jc37 22:14, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 04:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:42, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:JZG

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 12#Wikipedia:JZG

Wikipedia:RFZ

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep as nomination rationale voided.
(non-admin closure) J947 † edits 23:24, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

It is not clear what the abbreviation of the RFZ representative is, and he is not related to the target Q𝟤𝟪 09:59, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - RFZ, is likely "Request for Zs" ("Z" being equal to rest or sleep, as in a cartoon). So I think it's a plausible redirect to the page. - jc37 17:37, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I was about to say the same thing as Jc37 above, as this likely refers to a "Request for ZZZ", and is not about a person (as the nom incorrectly implies). CycloneYoris talk! 20:53, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Breach of the peace movie

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:41, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not really close to the title of the movie, and doesn't have any pageviews for the past month so not really a good search term either. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 06:57, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 07:07, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. No sources to indicate this was a working title either or an alternative translation. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 06:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Declaration of the Nullity of the Ecône Schism

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:42, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First, the capitalisaiton makes this redirect unhelpful. Second, this is highly misleading: the article does not state the schism was declared null, simply that the excommunications were lifted and that there is no full communion between the SSPX and the Holy See.

Therefore, I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 06:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WarII

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:42, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Delete nonsensical redirect. Google doesn't show affinity for Warcraft 2, instead it shows more results for WW2. Also "Warii" is a Japanese word "ワリぃ" and "ワリィ" (also used as the title of a TV episode) or "悪ぃ", which is a Japanese dialectal word in Kagoshima dialect ;; -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 05:07, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 06:53, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. I'm not entirely opposed to some kind of disambiguation but I don't think it's likely enough of a search term to warrant this. I'm having a hard time seeing how the current target would be the primary target though, even having read the previous discussion. A7V2 (talk) 00:52, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per all, and confusion with World War II. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:24, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. This isn't WC2. Searches lead to Wario AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 06:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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MasterChef: Dessert Makers

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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 13:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Highly implausible redirect which is neither a typo nor is referenced in any media when searched. Also, no incoming links to redirect. Happily888 (talk) 02:33, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep – unambiguous; existent typo ([1] 2). I realise those aren't reliable sources but they do indicate that this is a misnomer that could be made again. Certainly no benefit in deletion given. J947 † edits 02:41, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's still potentially ambiguous, Adriano Zumbo's show referred to their contestants as "Dessert Makers" and I'm pretty sure one of the international versions (I can't remember which one) have already done a dessert season of the show before. There's little benefit in keeping the redirect, it's now even more highly implausible that a user would make this typo in future if searching for this series, especially with the higher coverage now in media. FWIW, the initial redirect creator also seemed to support the speedy deletion nom. Happily888 (talk) 03:31, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per J947. I'm not convinced this is ambiguous, and it does seem a plausible enough mistake. A7V2 (talk) 00:53, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. Plausible misnomer indeed. Deletion seems pointless. CycloneYoris talk! 10:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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GoT

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Retarget to Game of Thrones as that is the primary topic for this term fairly evidently in my opinion. No other items mentioned on the dab page are referred to by this capitalisation. J947 † edits 02:28, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hottest life

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 12#Hottest life

Degree of belief

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 19:05, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Not even included.

Hildeoc (talk) 00:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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