Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 625

Hi English Wikipedia help Channel. I have posted an article it's name is "Draft: Taal Inc." 2-3 weeks ago. I waiting someone to review it as it has already been reviewed before twice, necessary corrections have been made. I am looking forward for some to read it and help me before it gets deleted by Wikipedians. Is that possible? I request, not to delete the page. Tell me the necessary ramifications I'll make changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siddy sj (talk • contribs) 05:58, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Do you understand the need to establish that the subject is

notable? Draft: Taal Inc. cites over 50 sources, but none of the ones I have checked even mentions the subject. Maproom (talk

) 07:56, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I want to make wiki page for my company My Flight Trip ? How do i make it please guide me.Jasbirsrathore1984 (talk) 07:51, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello,

conflict of interest. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs

) 07:55, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

@

conflict of interest

. It means that, no matter your intentions, you are probably too close to your company to write objectively about it.

What many users don't realize is that Wikipedia is a different kind of website from social media; it is not a place like Facebook for every company to get a page. Wikipedia is more selective about its content; it wants article subjects to be shown to be

reliable sources

, that is, what other people who don't work for your company say about it.

If you do have independent reliable sources, there may be ways for you to indirectly create a page about it. You can make a request at

Articles for Creation where you can write a draft and them submit it for review before it is posted- however if you don't have independent reliable sources and the page is written as an advertisement, it will be rejected quickly. Those are really the only two ways you can see a page created about your company. I hope this helps you. 331dot (talk

) 07:58, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I would add that a Wikipedia page about your company isn't necessarily a good thing. It can be edited by anyone and

no one, even you, gets to control what appears on the page. If negative information about your company is published in an independent reliable source, it can be added to the page about your company and you can't keep it off just because it is negative. 331dot (talk

) 08:05, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi all, I participated in a Wikipedia class editing project last year and really loved it, so I want to get into editing a little more. While I would love to start with correcting small issues in articles, it's difficult to find those. I was wondering if there's anywhere I could find a list of stubs/incomplete articles/articles with noted issues so I can target my efforts effectively. Thanks in advance! RDvor (talk) 06:02, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, RDvor, and welcome to the Teahouse. You can find articles in need of help here: Wikipedia:Community portal, including stubs. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 08:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

(ec) Hello @

WP:Stubs. Other types of maintenance are also often covered by specific Wikipedia projects (f.e. copy-editing, disambiguation, categorization, anti-vandal and anti-spam activities, and lots more). Depending on your interests, I recommend to join such a Wiki project for additional ressources and advice from like-minded editors. A quick additional tip: if you are looking for information about a specific Wikipedia-related topic, you can type "WP:topic" in the search field. Usually such keywords are linked to an information or guideline in the "Wikipedia" namespace with additional details and links. Hope that helps. GermanJoe (talk

) 08:15, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

StephStephRJ (talk) 08:54, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi StephRJ, welcome to Wikipedia. It's great that you want to help out new editors, and there are a number of ways you can do so, depending on your preferred areas of expertise. Ultimately, we judge people on the strength of their contributions, so if you keep making positive additions to the encyclopedia, you'll quickly become a trusted member of the community.

As a writer, you're presumably fairly proficient with language, so you may want to join up with the

Guild of Copy Editors

to provide assistance with language and grammar in other users' articles.

If you want to prevent vandalism, this will help you get started.

There are plenty of backlogs which are full of articles in need of attention.

You may also want to look through the community to-do list for ideas of areas that need some attention.

Hopefully this gives you a couple of ideas for moving forward. All the best, Yunshui ^雲_水 09:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I read a lot of content on how to create a page and write an article for your company on wikipedia but all the content is very scary and tells me to not create a page myself, but to submit a request and let someone else write it. Because if I write content for my company myself then it may be biased and I will have a vested interest in it, so let a third person do it who is neutral to the company. How do I submit a request for a volunteer or writer to write an article for my company and where do I submit it?

180.151.8.130 (talk) 06:29, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. You can visit

Requested Articles to post a request that others write about your company. You should be aware that since Wikipedia is a volunteer effort, it may not be done quickly. 331dot (talk

) 08:00, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

To add to what

notable (in the sense that Wikipedia used the word), and so it is not worth you or anybody else spending time on an article. --ColinFine (talk

) 10:26, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an inforation business,although Wikipedia is considered as social media by some sources,Wikipedia is actually about information sharing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.250.241.7 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the question. Wikipedia

not a social media site. Yunshui ^雲_水

14:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

While Yunshui rightly points out that the aim of Wikipedia is not to be a social media, de facto it is a place where people with somewhat common interests discuss and share content, even though discussions should remain germane to the goal of improving the encyclopedia. Said otherwise, while you may make friends here, that is not the goal.

In the future, you should use the Teahouse (and the similar

Reference Desk. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me}

16:50, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Also, to the OP, you said that Wikipedia is an information business. Just want to be clear that isn't correct. It's not a business, its a non-profit institution similar to the open source movement in software development where people contribute things for the satisfaction of the work and the experience of working collaboratively with a great community, not for monetary gain. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 02:24, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

• Please read
  WP:NOTFACEBOOK. It is definitely not a social media. 62.109.16.184 (talk
  ) 13:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Well

WP:NOT is a little... misleading to say the least. Many things that "Wikipedia is not" it actually is. It is simply these things incidentally. All the best: Rich Farmbrough

, 12:53, 12 June 2017 (UTC).

Hello, Imnikrist, and welcome to the Teahouse. There is no way to properly merge them. You can, of course, keep track of your edits under those usernames by accessing:

• Special:Contributions/Thankyoubloke
• Special:Contributions/Chessbloke
• Special:Contributions/Tabloke

You can also turn your old user pages and user talk pages into

redirects that point to your current user and talk page. That way people will know whom to contact regarding edits made from those accounts. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs

) 12:30, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Finnusertop. That's very helpful. I'll try and do redirects. Is there are username redirect template or anything? Thanks again. Imnikrist (talk) 12:35, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

There is {{Former account}} and some others at Category:Alternative Wikipedia account templates, but they look a bit clumsy. I'd simply put a redirect on your old user pages and user talk pages, as you have done at User:Thankyoubloke. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:59, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello I work for a registered charity in the UK (The Officers' Association) and have joined Wikipedia in order to create a wiki page to represent our organisation. When I search for "Officers' Association" there is a redirect in place that points to the Royal British Legion (RBL) - Another much larger UK charity who we work closely with. As you can see from their page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_British_Legion) it lists the Officers' Association as one of the merged organisations that formed the RBL - This is factually inaccurate.

Can you recommend the best course of action to create this page and remove this redirect? We have a good relationship with the RBL so I could approach them but would like advice on what I should be requesting first.

Many thanks

James

Officersassoc (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey

our username policy

since it appears to be promotional and implies shared use. Nearly anything will do just fine, including "James at OA" or just literally gibberish.

Second, you should carefully review our

policies on conflicts of interest

and take care to abide by them, since failure to do so can result in a lot of unwanted attention.

Finally, if you would like to attempt to write the article yourself, and you're pretty sure it meets our

Articles for Creation project

where a volunteer can review it and offer feedback.

You probably also want to check out our

TimothyJosephWood

12:43, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

One more thing,

TimothyJosephWood says: No Wikipedia article "represents" an organisation, other than Wikipedia. If Wikipedia has an article about your organisation, it will not "represent" your organisation, it will not be owned by your organisation, and your organisation will not have control of its contents. It is basically not your job to write a Wikipedia article about your organisation, because you are likely to find it hard to judge what is and what isn't promotional. This is why editing with a conflict of interest is discouraged. My recommendation would be to drop the idea, and (if you want to contribute to Wikipedia) find other articles to work on. But if you choose to continue, follow TJW's advice. --ColinFine (talk

) 14:47, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I have created a stub here, since the redirect is wrong. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC).

Hello sir, i want to know how to get Help from the administrator or supereditors when someone get bullied by senior editor in wikipedia. Constantly removing & reverting the contribution(constructive hard-work) of new user in a targeted manner, and discourages the new users in wikipedia world. Thank you --WikiBodhiVamsa (talk) 06:28, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi WikiBodhiVamsa and welcome to the Teahouse. I haven't examined the disagreement in detail, but I see no bullying, only an insult by you, which is not allowed in Wikipedia. If you have a disagreement on content, please discuss it politely on the talk page of the article without making any accusations. I'm not an administrator or "supereditor", just an ordinary editor like you, and we are all equal here, but we all have to learn the rules of Wikipedia about use of sources. If a polite discussion does not result in an agreement, then you can ask for a Wikipedia:Third opinion. Dbfirs 06:44, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi again WikiBodhiVamsa I don't think accusing people of Communist bias is helpful to Wikipedia. Could I just clarify that a content dispute is best discussed on the talk page of the article (in this case Talk:Godhra_train_burning where another editor has already started a discussion). Repeatedly adding disputed content is considered disruptive and is not the way we do things on Wikipedia. Please follow procedure. You might find the essay Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle helpful. Dbfirs 08:38, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Dbfirs, i think you didn't read my reply correctly in Talk page. I said this is my personal opinion sir, and i ask this in very polite manner. i think i have rights & freedom to speak to other user like You. It was decent conversation. But why are you hackling me here.? is this your 2nd account(Tyler Durden) please let me know. Thank you. --WikiBodhiVamsa (talk) 12:46, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi again WikiBodhiVamsa. I'm disappointed that you ignored my advice. I was trying to help you to avoid getting blocked but I see that you are determined to continue with your war against other editors and I wish to have no more to do with you. Please do not continue any correspondence with me. I have no interest in the article and I wish to avoid any more ridiculous accusations. I have withdrawn my comment above since you think I misunderstood. I get the impression that there is something more going on here, but I have no evidence so I will not comment further. Dbfirs 12:57, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Dear sir @Dbfirs, i am worried. i don't know what makes you think i am attacks other user. This is very polite and decent conversation. but instead i am sacred using Wikipedia. This is no longer Open source and Free space of knowledge. where other voice & opinion are being suppressed by other user. This is not jimmy wales dream. Sorry if i hurts you. Thank you WikiBodhiVamsa (talk) 13:15, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Please do not communicate with me any further. I suspect that all is not as it seems. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a free space for anyone to write what they wish. There are many open sites where opinion can be expressed if this is what you are looking for. Dbfirs 13:25, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Dear Wiki Users,

I am an editorial assistant working for The Magazine ANTIQUES (TMA) and MODERN Magazine (MM). I have two questions:

1. I noticed that TMA doesn't have a header image and I was going to add one. We have the rights to use whatever was on our covers, so I was going to upload our May-June cover. However, since it's the company and not I who specifically owns the copyright, is it ok for me to upload it using my user account?

2. MM has no page. Is it conflict of interest for me to create it, using just basic info (publisher, editor, owner, basic history)?

The magazines have been around for, respectively, 95 and 9 years. I've been working for them for a little over a year.

Thank you. Samg0DD^m (talk) 18:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

(2) Yes, since you work for them it is a conflict of interest not only to create the page but to work on it at all. See the guideance at

WP:COI. (1) The image must be released under a free licence that allows for re-use. RudolfRed (talk

) 19:07, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Samg0DD^m (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

WP:PAID

.

When

Donating copyrighted material

. Oh your employer having the "rights to use" an image would not be sufficient, the actual copyright holder must consent to the release.

Once you disclose your connection, you could use the

articles for creation project, which will need to be reviewed and approved by an experienced editor before it goes live. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs}

20:47, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, DES. I've learned a lot. Will try to familiarize myself with the procedure before attempting anything else. Samg0DD^m (talk) 21:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

• |The image could be uploaded under
  WP:FAIRUSE. All the best: Rich Farmbrough
  , 14:41, 12 June 2017 (UTC).
  

I am a very keen participant in writing contests (not the photography ones). I was very active in the Africa Destubathon. However since then I have not chanced upon any contest - the fixed period ones, not the 10/50K challenges. Today I glanced upon https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/UNESCO_Challenge, though the date had ended by then. Where do I find a list of all the short term contests on different Wikimedia projects? Jupitus Smart 18:04, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Greetings Jupitus Smart, Wondering if Contests page will help or inactive International writing contest page. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 19:13, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Therein lies part of the problem @JoeHebda:. The UNESCO Challenge I had mentioned above did not show up in either page. So it would have been futile to add either page to my watchlist. What I need is a more comprehensive list, or some other medium that mentions new events (including Contests). I don't think Signpost mentions such details, otherwise it would have been useful. Jupitus Smart 05:50, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps the

WP:VP, perhaps? All the best: Rich Farmbrough

, 14:54, 12 June 2017 (UTC).

What is the name of this teahouse ?Wholecube (talk) 05:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Teahouse. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:57, 12 June 2017 (UTC).

I am an employee of a small non-profit historical site. We would like the info about our site to be placed on Wikipedia and I was given the task. Is this a major conflict of interest that will result in our contribution being denied?Folle avoine (talk) 16:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Folle avoine, and welcome to the Teahouse. It is a significant conflict of interest, but it need not prevent the info being included, if it is apropriate, and things are done properly.

• First, review our
  our specific guideline on the notability of organizations
  . Consider whether your organization (or the site it runs) clearly meets the standards listed there.
• Second, read
  referencing for beginners
  and again consider if you want to go ahead.
• Third, Disclose your connection with the group in accordance with
  WP:PAID
  . This is absolutely required, omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing.
• Fourth, Gather sources. You want
  reliable sources
  that each discuss the organization in some detail. If you can't find several such sources, stop, an article will not be created. Sources do NOT need to be online, although it is helpful if at least some are. The independent part is vital in this case. Not press releases, nor news stories based on press releases, or anythign published by the organization itself or its affiliates. Not strictly local coverage. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the org in detail. But those significant sources are needed first.)
• Fifth, use the
  conflict of interest
  it is essential.
• Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article.
  puffery
  or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed.
• Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is rejected, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. Repeat this until the draft passes review.

Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:12, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

• I took the liberty of bolding a very important part of DESiegel's comments. While paid editing of Wikipedia is allowed precisely because people like you are a net positive to the encyclopedia, it needs to be transparent. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:13, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I want to make a page for The Harry R Horvitz Center. It's a palliaitve care center in a major Cleveland Ohio hospital. I started out by making a pge for the Harry R Horvitz Center in my sand box last year and moved my drafted Harry R Horvitz Center wikipage over to be a real article last May. It was promptly deleted because I had just copied some information from several published articles instead of using my own words. But since I had the exact references... I thought I could quote the published articles. So do I start completely over... or edit my own first attempt??? B. Hullihen (talk) 10:23, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, B. Hullihen. It sounds as if you started in a sensible way, but then took a short cut and moved the article over yourself rather than requesting a review. You're perfectly entitled to do this, but as you found, it is risky for a newish editor to do.

You can quote limited material from sources, but you must present them as explicit quotations, and they must be within reasonable limits of size: see WP:Quotations. The bulk of the article should be based on published sources, but summarised in new words. As for whether to work from your draft or start again, I can't tell you I'm afraid. Either is possible, depending on whether you think you can rescue your draft, or it would need to be rebuilt from scratch. --ColinFine (talk) 10:37, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Exactly! As I have read in the wiki intro... I did move it over myslef which caused the article's early demissal. I want my articel to be just like the accepted ... St Christopher's Hospice... wiki page.

B. Hullihen (talk) 10:48, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing St Christopher's Hospice to our notice, B. Hullihen. I have just tagged it as written like an advert, and completely lacking references. Please do not treat it as a model. It is one of the millions of articles which are seriously below the standard we now require for new articles. If you want a model, find something comparable in Category:Good articles. --ColinFine (talk) 15:24, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I have reverted this article to an earlier version that I think is both preferable and acceptable.[1] Thincat (talk) 15:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

I would like to know why this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parassala_B._Ponnammal is not showing in the google search. Please help.

Thanks

Sriram Venkitachalam 11:13, 12 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sriram Venkitachalam (talk • contribs)

Hello, Sriram Venkitachalam, and welcome to the Teahouse. The article needs to be patrolled by one of our new pages patrollers, or 90 days need to elapse. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace"). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:24, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Finnusertop, thank you very for the clarification. Sriram Venkitachalam 16:01, 12 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sriram Venkitachalam (talk • contribs)

I'm trying to submit a page for my company. I have indicated my conflict of interest and here is the content that I have posted. I'm not sure why it keeps getting rejected. I have reputable sources to back up each of these points. Entripy Custom Clothing is Canada’s first online provider of custom printed apparel [1]. The Canadian company screen prints and embroiders logos onto t-shirts, sweatshirts and other apparel items for businesses, schools, charities and special events across Canada. Entripy was founded in 1999 by Jas Brar. Today, Entripy employs over 100 people and operates out of a 50,000 square foot facility in Oakville, Ontario.  Lisa.Evans (talk) 15:06, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello,

independent, reliably published sources which have said something about the company (note that this excludes anything published by the company, and also anything based on a press release or interview with the company), and then forget everything you know about the company and write an article based solely on what these independent sources have said (though in your own words). If that gives you a substantial article, then you can add some uncontroversial factual information like places and dates from the company's own publications. But if you can't find a published source for some information, it doesn't go in. And if you can find only non-independent sources, you consider very carefully whether the information is open to discussion, and if so, it doesn't go in. And any even slightly evaluative or judgmental words go in only if they are direct attributed quotes from an independent source. --ColinFine (talk

) 16:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Can someone help me to create an article in wikipedia and get approved , I've tried so many times but all fail. Please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rexhino Kovaci (talk • contribs)

Hello, Rexhino Kovaci You appear to have been trying to create an autobiography on your user page. The lesser error in this is that your User page is not an appropriate place for an article: it is for you to share as much information as you wish about you as a Wikipedia editor. The more serious problem is that autobiography is strongly discouraged in Wikipedia. If you wish to help us improve Wikipedia by learning how to edit and create articles, you are most welcome. If your purpose is to publicise yourself, please find another place to do it. --ColinFine (talk) 16:19, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I've just realised that you got a much fuller answer to the same question further up the page. --ColinFine (talk) 16:20, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

The page is called "Elixir Press." It appears when searched, but I would like it to appear in Google search. Please help. Booksnob (talk) 15:23, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello,

notability

, and there should not be an article.

I also wonder, from your eagerness for it to appear in Google (which to my mind is a complete irrelevance since Wikipedia has its own search facility, and Wikipedia may not be used for promotion) if you have a connection with Elixir Press? If you have, then you should be aware of the policy on

paid editing. --ColinFine (talk

) 16:46, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello ColinFine, I am not a paid editor, just a newbie at Wikipedia who accesses many pages via Google. The page is quite similar to other small press pages I've seen in the number and quality of references but I will see what can be done. The tone of the page could use some adjustments. Thanks again. Booksnob (talk) 17:12, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately there are lots of poor-quality articles on Wikipedia, Booksnob. Most of them predate today's standards for inclusion, so it's best not to use them as a yardstick for what is acceptable. Hopefully, with time, these older articles will be improved or deleted, but it's a big task. In the meantime, we should strive to hold new articles to a high standard so that we don't further contribute to the problem. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:23, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

(

WP:Notable. Dbfirs

17:29, 12 June 2017 (UTC)