Wikipedia talk:Eight simple rules for editing our encyclopedia

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Ignore all rules section

Suggested edit:
  • Preferring a discussion over
    Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy
    . At the least this should be at the top as a "See also".

Rationale

I just ran across this and think it informative, likely something that could be offered to newer editors, more especially any that might "transgress" in some area as to receive a warning, as a suggestion to read. However, the Ignore all rules (IAR) section (and policy) is often misunderstood or even misused.
We are advised to
bureaucracy. A new editor does not have to know "all the rules" to edit and Please do not bite the newcomers
should always be considered.
If an edit is bold and not contested it is a normal process of editing considered consensus by silence (explanatory supplement) and therefore cannot break any policy or guideline at that time. This process ends immediately when at any time an edit or action is contested.
If an edit is contested community practice will usually resort to the
no consensus
thus a claim of IAR could be upheld.
The bottom line is that a claim, that should give limitations on bureaucracy, will only work when not contested, so no real reason to consider IAR, however, as soon as something is contested it will usually bring in a host of quoted policies, guidelines, and even possibly some broadly accepted essays during discussions.
The section of "What Wikipedia is not" includes the often disregarded "A procedural, coding, or grammatical error in a new contribution is not grounds for reverting it, unless the error cannot easily be fixed. Many times a blanket reversal is used even if content is a net positive contribution possibly just needing some tweaking. When used properly WP:BRD (a form of
one-revert rule could be an indication that there should never be any edit wars yet there are, and the "explanatory supplement" (that is optional) is often over-used. Otr500 (talk) 10:31, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
]

Counting

Aren't there 7 rules here? Did one get removed somewhere? Or is the more information section or lede supposed to be one? Skarmory (talk • contribs) 00:09, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed by 137a ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 08:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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