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Puli Dorney is a 23 year old female (as of Monday March 30th 2020. She is known on Instagram. She started her game from being featured in ImWoahVicky live stream. Issabackupaccount (talk) 19:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why shouldn't files be renamed?

I noticed on Wikipedia:File mover section #2.1 What files should not be renamed?, it said files should not be renamed if the renaming consisted of just adding spaces. Now I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason for this. The section itself states it's as a matter of principle. What is the priciple/reason for this policy? --Dutchy45 (talk) 15:47, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of criterion

Hello!

c:COM:FNC#6 is already pretty much a de facto criterion but can it be made a de jure one? — Preceding text originally posted on Wikipedia talk:File mover (diff) by Jonteemil (talk⋅contribs) 23:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Things like double extensions (example.jpeg.jpg) can be quite confusing. — Preceding text originally posted on Wikipedia talk:File mover (diff) by Alexis Jazz (talk⋅contribs) 12:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion moved here from Wikipedia talk:File mover. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:05, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the commons criterion (including its footnote) is:

Non-controversial maintenance and bug fixes, including fixing double extensions, invalid or incorrect extensions, character handling problems, and other similar technical issues.[1]

  1. ^ This is not a catch-all for anything that doesn't fit one of the above. This is for specific technical problems, generally which have a Phabricator task and have been the subject of community discussion.
DMacks (talk) 16:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Double extension

Pinging @

File:Green Crystal Ties, Volume 1.Garage Band Rebels.JPEG.jpg. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply
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@Alexis Jazz: I also noticed that enwiki lacked an equivalent to #6 at Commons. I therefore requested it be added at Wikipedia talk:File mover#Addition of criterion.Jonteemil (talk) 11:49, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonteemil: I moved the discussion to this page, because this is where the criteria are. (Wikipedia:File names is transcluded on Wikipedia:File mover) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:05, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonteemil: We are now stuck with 139 files in Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming. I'm not currently comfortable renaming them without a rationale in policy, and writing policy probably takes about.. long? How do you propose we resolve this? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:19, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds sound. If the proposal goes through the files will be renamed and if not, my edits will be reverted. I don't think a conclusion will take that much time.Jonteemil (talk) 19:22, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonteemil: I think accepting proposals takes long, and in the meantime the category is difficult to navigate. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:26, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The closest that I can associate this is to
WP:FNC#5 for the meantime until there is any explicit mention about double extensions. The commons policy seems to treat it like that. — Emperork (talk) 00:56, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • I would say double extensions are uncontentiously covered by
    be bold. I think realistically you could just update the policy wording to include double extensions as an example of one of the aforementioned criteria, probably 5 would be the most accurate. I do not think it needs to be formally proposed as a new criterion because it's already implied. I appreciate your willingness to hit the brakes on this as a brand new File mover and seriously assess the situation. That's definitely the right thing to do in any "mass edit" situation, especially one where the policy mandate is unclear to you. Definitely a scary situation to run into right after you get File mover. However, in this case I think Jonteemil is well within the bounds of policy and if you were to initiate the moves, I would vouch for that as a 100% appropriate use of the tool. ~Swarm~ {sting} 18:32, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply
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@Swarm: Thank you. I wanted to help maintain the category and right away run into this, rather scary. I actually did move a few of them, specifically those of the "svg.png" variety. Those can clearly be confusing. But .JPG.jpg? It's really odd and ugly, but it's clear that it's a JPEG file. And what about "BitBucket SVG Logo.svg"? It's straight from the DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment, but is it confusing? On AN, Wugapodes said I think the ".JPEG.jpg" may be worth renaming especially if they're recent uploads but most of the files in the category were uploaded years ago. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:36, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My comment was less "don't do it" and more "
an unambiguous improvement even if minor. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply
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@Wugapodes: Isn't there a bot that takes care of updating articles which contain moved images? If not, I'll have to figure out how to make the Commons gadget work here. Also, while redirects are left, hotlinked images on external sites still break. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:20, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
See also VPM. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:36, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just dealt with a few requests by

obvious error
(should be UST when going with the initialism) and as a whole the name was fairly ambiguous.

But I don't think it's wrong to call the image a logo. (which was the original motivation for the rename request) I think coats of arms are a subtype of logos, especially when used in the modern day. Am I right? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:49, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

McVahl (talk) 13:24, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
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McVahl: See Wikipedia:File names#What files should not be renamed?. As a matter of principle, it is best to leave all files with generally valid names at their locations, even if slightly better names may exist. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:08, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
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