Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion/New religious movements work group
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This page has been subject to long term abuse by followers of the Pakistani new religious leader Gohar Shahi who have sidelined any report of the mentioned death of the person and changed it to mere disappearance which none of the sources claim. The Pakistani government and courts [and press] treat Shahi as having died in 2001 and have dismissed various cases of blasphemy against him based on that. Basically two groups arose after his death in 2001 with the larger one being Messiah Foundation International which claims that Shahi did not die and that is what is being reflected in the article. (I recommend reading this journal article by Yoginder Sikand on the leader and the movement(s) founded by him.)
I am not sure how to approach this and am not too familiar with new religious movements. Please see what should be done here, pinging @]
- Firstly, I am not in any way knowledgeable about Asian NRMs. However if official sources list someone as dead, unless very reliable sources put the official source into dispute for a legitimate reason, we should write it as if the person were decreased on Wikipedia. Reversion seems necessary if that is indeed the case. talk) (contrib) 19:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)]
- @Jayen466: Can you please provide a comment as to what should be done here? The article's status has not changed much since I first made this comment. Gotitbro (talk) 19:22, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- We should go with what the mainstream sources say. That is the person is dead, however, mentioning what the other sources have claimed (though the proof is lacking). ─ (talk) 17:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)]
- @TheAafi: Yes, that is what I was thinking. On the lines of "Though he died in 2001(citations/note here), a section of his followers claims that he has merely diasppeared and is still alive(citations/note here)". With further changes to the article per this. Gotitbro (talk) 18:05, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @(talk) 18:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Indeed, I also went through the 23 other language wikis to check the status of his articles there; on Bengali, Finnish, Malaysian, Punjabi, Simple, Portuguese, Romanian, Swedish, Urdu, Vietnamese and Chinese he is reported to be still alive likely due to the articles being later translations of the enwiki article (after COI editing had taken place). I will wait for further comments and implement the changes of his death if no one is opposed to it as such here. Gotitbro (talk) 18:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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- @TheAafi: Yes, that is what I was thinking. On the lines of "Though he died in 2001(citations/note here), a section of his followers claims that he has merely diasppeared and is still alive(citations/note here)". With further changes to the article per this. Gotitbro (talk) 18:05, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- We should go with what the mainstream sources say. That is the person is dead, however, mentioning what the other sources have claimed (though the proof is lacking). ─
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Draft:World Religions and Spirituality Project
Hello, this draft, about a project that was initially focused on new religious movements, needs some work before being moved to the main encyclopedia area. Any help from content creators familiar with NRMs would be welcome. Most of the people involved in the project have a long history working in the NRM area of religious studies. Liz Read! Talk! 00:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Love Has Won
Small NRM in the news today, due to the leader being found deceased. There was some significant coverage prior to this so I've created an article at Love Has Won. Feel free to improve. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)