Talk:2013 Africa Cup of Nations

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Niger to joint bid with Nigeria

Is their a article that states that Niger will do a joint bid with Nigeria in case Lybia can't host the 2014 African Cup of Nations? Cus I can't find it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.92.98.176 (talk) 03:37, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2013?

More articles describing this as "CAN 2013" (such as this). Oddly, more French language links seem to be popping up with this designation. Don't know if a definitive decision has been made as yet. Jlsa (talk) 01:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gabon/Equatorial Guinea

Does anyone know how these two qualify for the 2013 edition? If the qualification for the 2012 edition double for the 2013, surely Gabon and Equatorial Guinea cannot qualify for 2013. Is there a mechanism in place to give them the opportunity to do so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.9.98.214 (talk) 16:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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SA's 11 official languages

At the moment the Afrikaans name for the tournament is listed in the info box. I say that we either need to put all 11 languages in, or we need to remove the Afrikaans. Comments? Crazydude22 (talk) 16:28, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find sources for Afrikaans and not the others, then it makes sense to include it alone. However, if it's listed somewhere in all 11, then not including them while linking to the location where the official titles are listed would be the best idea. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:00, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, add all or remove Afrikaans. The Afrikaans is "Afrika-nasiesbeker". (Source: Beeld & Die Burger) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.111.85.29 (talk) 12:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thing it's good idea to remove afrikaans language because it's difficult to add all the 11 languages. Or maybe we can make only the more important languages like afrikaans, zulu.
I'm not south african so I don't speak these countrie's languages however I tried to translate the title in zulu and maybe it's Afrika Inkomishi ave Isizwe 2013, maybe somone who speak zulu language can help us and correct this title. regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 12:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I don't think that a case can be made to add only the 'important' languages. In SA all 11 languages have the same official status. However, English is the de facto official language. A similar debate can be seen on the South Africa article page. This I still feel that we should add all 11, or remove Afrikaans. Crazydude22 (talk) 13:06, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This was already addressed with the 2010 FIFA World Cup article. We don't need to reinvent the wheel here. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:19, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The World Cup article currently has English and Afrikaans. I see no reason for this, but will look through the archive.~I still feel that Afrikaans is in no way more deserving of a place than the other 9, non-Engllish, languages. Crazydude22 (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Because it's difficult to add the all 11 official languages, I removed the Afrikaans title of this article (see here) and also of the 2010 FIFA World Cup (see here). Regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 15:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Because it's not the way we've done things in the past, I've restored it until we've reached consensus. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:52, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also because the WC article has been like that for over two years and someone is finally recognizing that there may be a problem. Consensus has been achieved on that article at least. I don't disagree with your reasoning, but would like to see it discussed and agreed upon before teh change is made. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why u removed my contribution? It's not logical and not correct to put only Africaans. We must respect the all 11 official languages. That's allright to put the Africaans title however we must put the rest of the official countrie's languages or we must remove all. Regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 16:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Are you editing from a mobile phone? I don't understand why you can't spell words out?
I thought I just explained why I restored your reverted your edit (it wasn't a removal of a "contribution" since you were deleting material). Let the discussion happen and when new consensus is reached, we can apply that consensus. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What do

reliable sources say? If we can find a source for the Afrikaans-language name (as opposed to us attempting a translation) then include it - same with the other official languages. If not, then only have the English name. GiantSnowman 16:58, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The 2010 FIFA World Cup, now shows only English in the info box, I move to do the same with this article, and all other sports events in SA. Comments? Crazydude22 (talk) 16:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:21, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Match officials: table or table

It seems that users Mas y mas and Uishaki are edit warring over the list of Match officials. Uishaki seems to prefer a table while Mas y mas prefers column templates, which collectively generate a table. The edit war is pointless and worst of all, no discussion is ongoing. In the 2012 edition, it was a table, not nearly as nice as the one Uishaki has created, but it was a table. The 2010 FIFA World Cup officials had its own article where the table used was radically different than what is being discussed here as is the table in UEFA Euro 2012. So neither is correct and neither is consistent with what has gone before, but if this pointless reverting continues, it may find you blocked so let us come to a consensus as to how to represent the material. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What makes an appropriate link for a report?

I have inserted a link FootballZone Report for a match report for the Angola vs Morocco match. However this has been removed by another editor in favour of this link AFCON 2013 Online Report.

Even after reverting the page to link I put the editor undid my changes again.

I don't understood the link to my source is being removed. Please help. Ryokō (talk) 21:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • The link you put is just a text commentary of match. There are no squads, no any other additional information. It's impossible to see who scored goals. This is a report from OFFICIAL AFCON website. There are squads, information about stadium, match officials, and you can easily see who scored the goals and is booked. Have you any more questions? Andrey Tsyganov (talk) 22:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Attendance figures

I see that the first 2 matches have been listed as 50 000 and 25 000, is there a source for that? Is there a site which lists attendance figures? Crazydude22 (talk) 09:41, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I got it from here. Kante4 (talk) 12:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have edited the info box's attendance, but have created an error. The total is correct, 305 000, but the average is wrong. 315 000/ 16 is 18 781, and not the 25 042 which is shown. I'm not sure what went wrong or how to fix it. Could someone else please do it. Crazydude22 (talk) 06:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No it is perfectly correct. Group C and D have not played there second round of games therefore there have only been 12 games played already. 300,500/12 = 25,042 — አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 06:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that, lapse in thinking there. Crazydude22 (talk) 06:43, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Attendance is clearly incorrect. Seems like we're quoting the capacity of the stadium rather than the actual attendance.80.61.109.22 (talk) 18:33, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Check the added numbers. They are different from match to match... Kante4 (talk) 22:20, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kits

Somebody, please, upload new kits for AFCON participants. Somebody who knows how to do that. Andrey Tsyganov (talk) 17:21, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that would be nice. :) Kante4 (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cape Verde's kit is not the right one, unfortunately :) Any more tries. Andrey Tsyganov (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And, please, this one for Nigeria. Unfortunately I don't know how it should be done. Andrey Tsyganov (talk) 22:30, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MOM

Hey, the man of the matches can be found here for the first round. Kante4 (talk) 02:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tie-breakers in group stage

The sixth tie-breaker is a fair play points system. Does anybody know what this system actually is, and can provide a reference? CAF's regulations say "Points system based on yellow and red cards". However in the past elsewhere (e.g. UEFA) has used a system which incorporates also points for attacking play, respecting opponent and referee, and behaviour of officials and fans. Nfm24 (talk) 10:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It says "yellow and red cards" here and nothing else. Kante4 (talk) 14:06, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I read that too, but what is the points system? How many points for a yellow and a red? If a player is sent off with two yellows, is that more or less points than a straight red card? If both games are draws tonight, with the same scores, fair play will be the decisive factor. Same on Tuesday. Nfm24 (talk) 15:43, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Algeria vs Togo

Why was this match so long? The delay due to the goalpost breaking was 14 minutes 49 seconds in duration. Yet full time was not blown by the referee until the match clock was at 119 minutes 29 seconds. Subtracting the delay, the total play time in the match was 104 minutes 40 seconds. There were no other significant delays, so why was there so much extra time added?! The delay occured at 86', so there should be 4 minutes plus a normal amount of injury time, say 4 minutes extra, so 8 minutes in total when play restarted. But the referee played on for 19' after the restart!! Nfm24 (talk) 10:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think everyone involved was not sure what happened or what to do. There were no "big" delays during the second half, 3 or even 4 minutes of injury time would have been ok. But they "gave" 13, any statements yet of the coaches, referees or officials? Kante4 (talk) 14:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like nobody noticed or cared, partly because the result was not affected. Togo scored a second goal so the match was 'safe'. But if Algeria had equalised in the 103rd minute of the match, I imagine the Togo delegation would be very unhappy. The Laws of the Game say that the amount of time added on is at the referee's discretion, so if he simply invents 10 extra minutes then the teams have to play them.... what if he adds on one hour?! Nfm24 (talk) 15:43, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The malgash referee M Hamada Nampiandraza is completely not good referee. He added many minutes in the end of the match maybe not good for Togo as you said. However during the match he completely participated for the elimination of the Algeria team. He don't give 3 penalties for Algeria (23rd, 47th & 57th), many offsides not justified against Algeria and many free kicks. if there was another referee, Algeria would have won normaly. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 11:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think Algeria had enough chances to score even without a better referee, but the strikers didn't take the chances. Similar to the first match vs Tunisia. Good midfield play is not enough to win! But I agree they should have had at least one penalty. Adding too much time could possibly be considered as a "technical error" by the referee, which could in theory lead to a replayed match if there was a complaint. There is a precedent for this : http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/germany2006/news/newsid=27212.html However I think in the Togo vs Algeria case neither team has much cause to demand a replay because the added time did not hurt either team (Algeria had more time to try to equalise, whereas Togo were able to score a second goal). If instead Algeria had equalised, then Togo could have lodged a formal complaint. 129.11.76.229 (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We can see here in Al-Jazeera Sports the 3 penalties not given to Algeria. Much sorry for the arabic language but with video only we can guess what this referee do. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 16:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The good thing is that he has been sent home along with two more referees... Kante4 (talk) 22:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Goals Per Nation statistics would be nice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.163.33.173 (talk) 22:09, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The infamous referee Selim Jedidi of Burkina Faso - Ghana match

Can we add a link to his profile on FIFA.com? His name is red so people don't even know who he is. His page exists in Magyar language though. http://www.fifa.com/mensolympic/referees/referee=261796/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.252.140.173 (talk) 21:26, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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