Talk:2014 World Snooker Championship

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Preliminary qualifying?

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I noticed that recent articles on the world championship have that, but it's absent this year. Is that because no preliminary qualifying took place or is it because it just hasn't been added? In the former case, a note to explain why this was the first championship for many years not to feature that would be informative. (I looked and can't find reference to it taking place.) Thanks and keep up the good work. Valenciano (talk) 19:53, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It didn't take place this year. Unfortunately such a note can't be added, as no reliable source contains any explanation, why it was eliminated this year. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:58, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's explained in this info from World Snooker, note 4: "In the event that places become available should any player not enter an event, places will be filled on an event by event basis using the Q School 2013 order of merit to fill any places up to the 128 entries required. " Whether or not this merits inclusion in this article I leave to others to decide. Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 23:38, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that's needed, it's not mentioned for the other ranking event articles of this season either. Also it doesn't really address the absence of the preliminary qualifying. (The "filling empty places from the Q School order of merit" principle was used last year too, and there were preliminary rounds.) Armbrust The Homunculus 23:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-final section

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In the semi-final section it states that Robertson has lost his number 1 spot having lost to Mark Selby which is correct, but is it not premature to say he lost it to Ding as Selby could be number 1 if was to win the final. Surely Ding's position is not official till the tournament is over. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 17:52, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're right.  Fixed. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:57, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 18:02, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

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This page should not be speedily deleted because... It is a valuable article to Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicefood (talk • contribs) 00:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ma3kkad3kda2 who added the speedily deletion template has been blocked indefinitely for vandalism, nothing to worry about. - FakirNL (talk) 15:11, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy to discuss, or be challenged on, any of my comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio and plagiarism check

  • I checked all matches showing above 4% on Earwig's Copyvio detector. No concerns.

Sources

Format

  • "The tournament features 32 participants" - as this section is just about the 2014 tournament, should this be "The tournament featured 32 participants"?

Prize fund

  • Can delink £.
  • Consider breaking the prize money into main event and qualifying sub-sections, to align with the description in the format paragraph.
    • It does already on my screen. I much prefer to use div col, rather than put in strict columns for things like this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tournament summary

Qualifying

  • The Wales online source for "Four former world champions lost in the qualifying rounds" only mentions Williams, so the citation should be moved to later in the paragraph.(Or can be removed here, as there are already two sources for that.)
  • "a match he was required to win" - I suggest "a match Davis needed to win"

First round

  • "Murphy won the frame 65–49 and match." - how about "Murphy took the frame 65–49 to win the match."?
  • "being unable to set a new record" - how about "and so failed to set a new record"

Second round

  • I don't think "in-a-row" needs to be hyphenated, but tell me if I'm wrong.
  • "only completed seven of the scheduled eight frames in the first session of their match" - presumably because time ran out, I suggest stating the reason if possible.

Quarter-finals

  • Looks fine.

Semi-finals

  • "O'Sullivan played Hawkins contested the first semi-final.." - slight reword required. I changed it to " O'Sullivan and Hawkins contested the first semi-final.."
  • The "Rampant Ronnie races into final" source is now credited to Hector Nunns on the live site, but to David Hendon (as per the reference here) on the archived copy. I don't know if any change is required for this.
    • The original is what I'm citing, can't see why this would need a change. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Final

  • "The third session concluded after just six of the scheduled eight frames" - presumably because time ran out, I suggest stating the reason if possible.
    • Source says Eight frames were scheduled for the session but it was a measure of the attritional nature of the action that they could only fit six in before the interval. - so you could infer a few things, but this borders on OR. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:55, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "127 and 87— came consecutively" is not supported by the source used here. Also - were they in consecutive visits, or just in consecutive frames?

Main draw

  • I think "Below is the full results" should be "Below are the full results"
  • The table for the final scores is acceptable, but if it could be in a format more like the 1985 World Snooker Championship one, I think it would look better and be easier for readers to see what happened (e.g. if there was the frame score at the start and end of sessions).
    • Indeed. I am planning on FACing this one eventually, so I'd change it before then. It's quite a bit of work to change to that format! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Qualifying

  • Could put "Round 1" etc in bold like the format used for main draw.
  • "The qualifying stage of the World Championship was the first snooker event held at the venue." - could be just "This was the first snooker event held at the venue ."

Images

  • Photos all fine. I'm still checking about the use of the logo.

Lead

  • "38th consecutive year that the World Snooker Championship had been held at the Crucible" - not in body of the article; unsourced.
  • "..and was the last ranking event.." doesn't read quite right to me - how about "..and the tournament was the last ranking event.."?
  • "having won the 2013 event defeating" is probably OK but I prefer "having won the 2013 event by defeating"
  • I'll defer to your superior knowledge around triple crown and terminology, but should it be "also completing his Triple Crown" rather than "also completing the Triple Crown"?
    • I disagree. Common wording would be to "complete the Triple Crown", or it sounds like he has his own Triple Crown. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Neil Robertson secured …" - how about "Neil Robertson compiled …"
  • "tournament, a 140. Robertson scored" could maybe be "tournament, a 140, and scored"
  • Consider mentioning in the lead that there was a qualifying event.
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