Talk:2024 Pune car crash

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Thanks Bluerasberry (talk) 14:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was a fatal road traffic collision between a car and a motorcycle, in which the two motorcycle riders were killed. Calling it a car crash is

What about 2024 Pune vehicular manslaughter ? Deathkillshoot (talk) 11:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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precise and implies a particular offence of manslaughter, rather than an alternative that involves driving causing death, without the implications of a manslaughter offence. While I am not versed in Indian traffic law, I am aware that the UN-ODC does distinguish between manslaughter and driving causing death offences and while it classifies them differently it also then groups both offences as homicides. Having thought about this for a while, I now think 2024 road deaths or perhaps 2024 road deaths scandal might be better. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:26, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply

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2024 Pune car crash → 2024 Pune Porsche car crash – The word "Porsche" is a big identifier of this case - the brand of the car crashed is a big assosciation and that is how the case is often talked about in the media. People know it as the "Pune Porsche" case rather than the "2024 Pune car crash". Hence, for this article and this case, I believe the word Porsche should be added. The article thumbnail contains all references, more can be researched. To help my case, the article's thumbnail image is already the Porsche car model. Pharaoh496 (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 07:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Inaccurate to target an uninvolved automobile company especially when it is not even commonly noted in the story title by the relevant sources. Accesscrawl (talk) 03:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  It is very much noted by relevant sources. That is literally how this story is known in India. Pharaoh496 (talk) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Many or most sources use the term "Pune Porsche" to describe this incident. Having two words that begin with the same letter makes alliteration that is fun to say. The point of news media is to get attention and for this case, the media made up a name that gets a lot of attention and makes people remember it. @Accesscrawl can you explain your argument about the company not being in the story title? Right now this wiki article cites 37 sources and I count 33 of them with the word "Porsche" in the headline. Bluerasberry (talk) 14:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per Bluerasberry. When I first read the news weeks ago, it said Pune Porsche. Concurrently, I Googled it and found that most sources used the term Porsche to describe this incident. For better result, we should support the purpose. Hasan (talk) 08:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose just because newspaper headlines like alliteration doesn't mean that we must use it. The proposed title is inappropriate.
  Walsh90210 (talk) 20:35, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  What? @

  Walsh90210 The only reason that the name is such because of the fact that the car is a porsche. That is how the case is known as. There may be (unfortunately) many crashes in pune in 2024. This is the one known about, because of the Porsche. All references and sources use it, it should be the name of the article. Pharaoh496 (talk) 08:38, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply

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"Porsche car" is redundant. Bremps... 03:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support since that does seem to be how it's commonly identified, though I agree with Bremps that "car" is unnecessary. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose the precedent for naming vehicular accident pages don't usually involve the brand of the automobile involved in the incident, see List of traffic collisions (2000–present) and [23] where all incidents only have their place in their names IsFanXianAlive (talk) 10:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That may be true but this change in particular is required as it is one of the key identifiers of the case Pharaoh496 (talk) 10:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose both the existing and proposed titles as these are both misleading. The model of the car is both irrelevant biased as it suggests that Wikipedia is influenced by news stories about expensive cars. Even describing this incident as a "car crash" is a car-centric
  Point-of-View title because it minimizes the fact the driver collided with a motorcycle and caused two road deaths. I would suggest a title like "2024 Pune road deaths", which better describes why this traffic collision is notable. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:07, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
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• Support – Per nom. More
  WP:PRECISE. Svartner (talk) 10:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply
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