Talk:Added tone chord

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Isn't it a bit silly to say suspended fourths are "far more common" than suspended seconds, since they are really just inversions of one another? --64.81.149.67 14:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then one inversion is more common than the other. But in reality, you expect a certain root in a given surrounding, and only one "inversion" fulfills that expectation. --91.32.55.66 (talk) 19:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, see inversion (music). A fourth inverted is a fifth. A second inverted is a seventh. Hyacinth (talk) 14:17, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hyacinth, I think you misunderstood the OP. Take a sus4 for example, Csus4, that is, C-F-G. Its first inversion, F-G-C, is indeed Fsus2. Ahyangyi (talk) 16:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It says here "An added tone, such as that added a perfect fourth below the root, may suggest polytonality". To me, it suggests a second inversion. This may be a mistake, but I can actually see a point there if the context is a chain of second inversion chords. But even then, it would not constitue an added tone in my understanding. --91.32.55.66 (talk) 19:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:Polytonality#Problems with this page. Hyacinth (talk) 20:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I removed the above as uncited. Hyacinth (talk) 03:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote a fair amount of the "Dogs (Pink Floyd song)" article, and in listing the four main chords, I went with the names they were given by Guitar World magazine. The second chord goes like this (low to high): B♭, E♭, F, B♭, D. Guitar World named it E♭maj7sus2/B♭, and that does make perfect sense. But it is a long name. Would "B♭(add4)" be equally appropriate? I'm not sure having an answer even matters, because if it's not in a citeable source, it might be considered original research to go changing the name, and that's verboten. But I would be interested to see what others think.
--Ben Culture (talk) 12:37, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"An example of an added tone chord may be found in Igor Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms[7] while an added tone (G) chord with mixed thirds, a major third and minor third, by William Schuman."
What by William Schuman? -- megA (talk) 10:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such thing as a "minor sus" chord. Is the chord's third is not present, then you can't call it "minor." Label should be "Csus4."71.87.23.98 (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"minor sus" refers to a suspended chord, so the label for an added tone chord rather than suspended chord should be "Cmadd4". Hyacinth (talk) 03:07, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about the example of Mr. Mister's "Broken Wings". If the beginning of the song is meant, I think it rather sounds like a sequence of suspended second chords without a third (something like Gsus2 - Fsus2 - Csus2). Or was a different part of the song meant (even if the beginning is just sus2 chords there may still be add9 chords elsewhere)? --79.240.195.80 (talk) 23:07, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]