Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in India/Archive 2

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Testing for Community transmission started on March 15. A network of 65 laboratories of the Department of Health Research and the Indian Council of Medical Research (DHR-ICMR) will now test 20 samples each week — 10 of influenza-like illnesses and 10 of severe acute respiratory infection — for Covid-19.

Soruces:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/will-know-if-indias-going-through-community-transmission-icmr/articleshow/74663239.cms

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/icmr-to-test-for-community-transmission-of-covid-19-6313521/

shreyas112358 4:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Shanze1 (talk) 05:55, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Archive of this talk is done.(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 06:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

@Mr.Mani Raj Paul: Noida is repeated multiple times, 'last night's' Karnataka case is not needed here (can move it to 16th if required), mention of the minister too is not needed in a timeline - just say "Karnataka reported 2 new cases" or something. Karnataka cases doesn't have a source. Fix these and please try to keep the timeline entries shorter. It is cluttering the page. Shanze1 (talk) 06:56, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

• @Shanze1: I agree, you can keep it shorter, thanks for discuss (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 07:02, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

I know that there is already a little bit of criticism in other sections ex - "Although government claimed that the amount of tests were enough, experts thought they were not, saying that community transmission may go undetected without adequate testing." And I don't want to put an undue amount of negativity here, but if there are reliable media reports coming out of bad 'medical facilities etc, it needs to be summarised and a new section should be created. Please note I am not raising the hospitality issue, ONLY the medical and safety aspect.

• Doctors to hand wash: Why India isn't ready for coronavirus crisis (Business Standard)
• India Is the World's Second-Most Populous Country. Can It Handle the Coronavirus Outbreak? (TIME Magazine)
• ‘Only 3 washrooms for 40 people’: Spain-returned woman shares video of COVID-19 quarantine facility in Delhi (TimesNow)
• India not prepared for coronavirus (THE WEEK)
• Alarm Bells Are Ringing, Is Panicky India Prepared To Tackle Coronavirus Outbreak? (Outlook)

Now I don't intend for people to start adding all "crap" here blaming India up and down and everything from the Sun to the Moon. Everyone will have to help maintain the section. But I think a section is needed. If no one has any objections anyone can go ahead and create the section please. There is already a "Discrimination" section. I think what I am proposing here, as far as the virus is concerned, is ranked a little higher in terms of wp:importance than the "Discrimination" section, therefore justifying the inclusion/necessity of the section.

A "situation" section is what we need, where this information and discrimination, both can be merged. I will be on it anytime soon. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 12:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I want to inform to all there is user @TheRichardPinto: who is removing paragraphs without discussing any issues. Here is some report:-

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We not want to create any vandalism. I simply request to all before removing any such long paragraph , please mention the issue on article talk page. Thanks(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 13:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

They don't appear to be vandalism. The edits are removal of prediction, summarizing the timeline which is fine. They're constructive. If the removed citation is indispensable, we can have it. Else, it can be removed. Shanze1 (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

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• Shanze1, Mayankj429 Schools and public places have been closed in Telangana. Could you fix it in the map and write about it? ^[1]. SaiP (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Shanze1 (talk) 14:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Shanze1. Please don't mind me asking as I am not yet a extended confirmed user, so have to ask any one of you guys. SaiP (talk) 14:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

That's okay. Your help here is equally valuable as editing the article. Thanks Shanze1 (talk) 14:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

@SaiP: - Thanks for the help throughout, since page is protected you can always ask to make edits with reliable sources. - Mayankj429 (talk) 14:24, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

• Shanze1, Mayankj429 Andhra Pradesh Govt announced closure of all educational institutions. Please update. ^[1]SaiP (talk) 06:23, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done : Thanks - Mayankj429 (talk) 06:42, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

• Shanze1, Mayankj429 New Update: AP shuts down malls, theaters and worship places; special regulations for bars, restaurants. ^[1] SaiP (talk) 13:06, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

As day by day cases are increasing, no. of states and UTs affected with COVID-19 are increasing. We can just write no. of territories as like - 'X' States, 'Y' UTs same as the

@Mayankj429: Hello, I agree with your views. Just we can display the territories like (Create Sub Section). this thing may very easy to find by visiter:-

(By Create Sub Section of Each States)

Delhi

Punjab

Maharashtra ....etc

To avoid long paragraph of such dates... (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 15:58, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

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In Rumours and misinformation section, following line can be added:

In a bizarre statement, parliamentarian Ramesh Bidhuri of Bharatiya Janata Party claimed that as per experts using Namaste as a greeting prevents contamination from the Covid-19, but using Arabic greetings like Adab or As-salamu alaykum does not as it directs the air into the mouth.^[1][2]

Copied this line from

 Done Thanks to @Jasksingh:, (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 17:31, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

1. Add Social distancing as a second point after SAARC conference, which is recently advised by Government of India.^[1] SaiP (talk) 21:16, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks to @SaiP:, (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 02:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC))

Thanks Mr.Mani Raj Paul SaiP (talk) 07:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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Since this number of cases per day is more helpful to analyse pandemic status, it would be better to create a table in which cases in each Indian State vs for Individual date will be better. Many countries has similar table: Iran, Germany, Italy. This kind of table is very useful to understand how infection is spreading, in which region and at which rate. Over time, it will be useful to see state wise breakdown of cases over time, as each state is brings different rules and guidelines. It could start from today, and then it could be updated with new date entry from tomorrow onwards. Can we use table template from here Coronavirus pandemic in Iran. XGammaRay (talk) 20:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

:@XGammaRay: I and some other editors have been working on it since last day. It will be under Statistics section after it gets completed. - Mayankj429 (talk) 10:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Mayankj429, Shanze1 : Please keep this section as-is. I will be tracking cases and adding it here. You guys can change. SaiP (talk) 08:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

1. Active cases raised to 5 as of now totaling to 6 which includes 1 recovery. ^[1] SaiP (talk) 08:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done:@SaiP: Thanks - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: Mayank, I don't see the edit. The table still shows active cases as 4. I do not see any writing either. Have I overlooked? Could you show it here? SaiP (talk) 08:43, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: Mayank, my bad, I see the writing. I think it is just the table which has to be updated. SaiP (talk) 08:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@SaiP: - It is updated in the Timeline section. Table in Statistics section is updated when Mohfw.gov.in updates there data otherwise we have to cite each case we update in table through other sources which is difficult. Don't worry as soon as mohfw updates it will be updated there too. - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:47, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: Okay

@SaiP: - And by the way table in stats section is a template which is not protected so you can also edit it with source cited.Thanks - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:54, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Mayankj429 SaiP (talk) 10:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

As of march 18, there was no evidence of community tranmission (results of 500 random samples tested for community transmission were negative).

Soruces:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-still-in-phase-2-of-coronavirus-outbreak-confirms-icmr/articleshow/74673951.cms

shreyas112358 8:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:43, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Mayankj429, Shanze1

1. I think it is informative to add another See-Also article to section Economy under Impact --> 2020 stock market crash. There is a separate article on the ongoing stock market crash as it is considered a significant event. SaiP (talk) 08:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks to @SaiP: (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 09:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC))

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The no of cases confirmed by the Ministry of health and family welfare has been increased to 151. Please change it as soon as possible. Prabhnoor151205 (talk) 12:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Shanze1 (talk) 12:56, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

The graph table count still shows 140. Newbie.I don't want to risk editing myself.....yet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.94.221 (talk) 14:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done : Already updated. - Mayankj429 (talk) 16:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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CHANGE

"West Bengal reported its first case in a person who had returned from England."

TO

"West Bengal reported its first case when the son of Sonali Chakravarti Banerjee returned from England and ignored official advice to be admitted to the hospital.^[1]" 103.77.137.137 (talk) 16:25, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Failed

BLP Policy. The first sentence of the linked article makes it clear that Alapan Bandyopadhyay and Sonali Chakravarti Banerjee are not the parents of the patient. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib)

20:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 March 2020

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The World Health Organisation (WHO) on Tuesday hailed the efforts taken by Narendra Modi-led government in combatting the novel coronavirus pandemic which began in the Chinese city of Wuhan, killing more than 7,177 people worldwide so far.

Speaking to reporters after holding a meeting with the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), Henk Bekedam, the WHO Representative to India, said that the commitment of the Indian government has been very impressive. He also appreciated the Indian Council of Medical Research (IMCR) for managing to isolate the strains of Sars-Cov-2.

"I think the commitment of the Indian government from the top level -- the Prime Minister's office himself -- has been enormous, very impressive. This is one of the reasons why India is doing very well. I am very impressed that everyone has been mobilised," Bekedam said.

"We have very good research capacity in India and especially at the ICMR and the Department of Health Research. They have been able to isolate the virus, (and) now India will continue to be part of the research community," he added.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-india-far-seems-staved-152540644.html

https://covidout.in/

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1239779904134066177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1239790566256160768&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freepressjournal.in%2Findia%2Fvery-impressed-with-indian-govt-and-pmo-whos-henk-bekedam-hails-modi-govts-fight-against-coronavirus

https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/very-impressed-with-indian-govt-and-pmo-whos-henk-bekedam-hails-modi-govts-fight-against-coronavirus 71.66.4.26 (talk) 19:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:47, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Chief Minister of Rajasthan imposed section 144 in the state till 31 March 2020 to combat with cornoavirus ^[1] Jainvaibhav1307 (talk) 23:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: @Shanze1:@Jainvaibhav1307: We should add different section of section 144 in Response header ,Not only Rajasthan even Mumbai,Nashik & some other states already issued (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 01:50, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

@Mr.Mani Raj Paul: Many cities with Rajasthan as in whole state have imposed sec. 144, i suggest mentioning of them under Prevantive measures in Response section. - Mayankj429 (talk) 06:52, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

@User:Mr.Mani Raj Paul; Thanks for your suggestions; Maharashtra has seperate oage for COVID on which it is already mentioned. Rajasthan still doesnot have sepearate page Jainvaibhav1307 (talk) 01:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

PM Modi will address the nation Today at 8 PM, during which he will talk about issues relating to COVID-19.

I am confuse now, how we will mention it. should we make a different Section? (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 02:41, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

We can have a sub-section beneath the 'SAARC conference' as 'PM's address' or something Shanze1 (talk) 03:31, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

The MHRD ordered all exams like CBSE and JEE to be postponed until after 31 march, add it in the article please.

References- JEE notice and the CBSE notice Thundermage117 (talk) 04:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks to @Thundermage117: , (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 05:05, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

@Mayankj429: @Shanze1:

1. Government of Andhra Pradesh closes visits to Venkateswara Temple, Tirumala until March 31, 2020. Please update.^[1][2]SaiP (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Shanze1 (talk) 11:41, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

I request everyone to update any death toll related news here so news can be organized in proper headings and ensure you ping to people who have access to edit the article.

1. @Mayankj429: @Shanze1: Please update: Death Toll in India increases to 4.^[1]SaiP (talk) 11:37, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done Shanze1 (talk) 11:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Shanze1 Thanks. SaiP (talk) 11:53, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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The new number of COVID-19 cases is 173. Kindly update Prabhnoor151205 (talk) 11:52, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Question: @Prabhnoor151205: Your request is unclear which country needs updating? Also we need a reliable source to confirm. Thank you. Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 12:05, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about that I'm starting to get my COVID-19 pages confused my bad I apologize. Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 12:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done It says 173 in the lead as of this writing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:15, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

1. @Mayankj429: @Shanze1: Not sure if this an important update in a wikipedia article. Nevertheless, I am adding it here. Please feel free to update if needed. At Least it might be useful to one person who visits this article on Wikipedia.^[1]SaiP (talk) 11:53, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Helplines Numbers are required in Wikipedia , @SaiP: , (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 16:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

@Mr.Mani Raj Paul: If they are required, why don't you update it? SaiP (talk) 16:43, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

@SaiP: , sorry it's my mistake in above message , I want to say, Helpline Numbers are not required in Wikipedia (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 17:02, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

1. @Mayankj429: @Shanze1: Please update: No international flights will be allowed to land in India from March 22 for a week.^[1]SaiP (talk) 11:57, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done, thanks to @SaiP: (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 12:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

Should we add New Section of Death??, Because we eleborare more clarity about the death of person.

What are both of your views?? @Mayankj429: @Shanze1: (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 12:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

@Mr.Mani Raj Paul: In all four death cases, I haven't seen any in detail update in Timeline and neither seems to be much important to give all details. Best, what we are already doing is putting summary of Death case on top on that date. So, I don't think it is required for now. - Mayankj429 (talk) 16:57, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429:, I agree with you, (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 17:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

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Complete travel ban to Himachal Pradesh for domestic as well as foreign tourists on 19th March 2020. Also ban on public transport in Punjab from 19th March 2020. Pankajsach (talk) 12:58, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done In the future, however, please provide a

reliable source to support edit requests. In this case the information was found easily enough and the importance of the topic mean I found those sources for the requested changes. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib)

16:50, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

According to [1] (archived here), on 19 March 2020 the Delhi government has limited to 20 units the number of people allowed "to gather at any place for social, cultural, religious, academic, seminar or conferences purposes in the state." It has also announced that for "persons don't keep themselves in quarantine, the government will be forced to arrest them and lodge an FIR against them.".

Those new measures are limited to the state of New Delhi whose Chief Minister is Arvind Kejriwal. However, we can add a concern in the current WP article.Micheledisaveriosp (talk) 15:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done, we added this in

Impact Section, thanks to @Micheledisaveriosp: , (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk

) 16:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

https://ahmedabadmirror.indiatimes.com/ahmedabad/others/first-coronavirus-cases-detected-in-gujarat-two-infected/articleshow/74716560.cms Parshav (talk) 18:59, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done - Mayankj429 (talk) 05:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/coronavirus-latest-updates-total-number-of-confirmed-cases-india-coronavirus-count/amp_articleshow/74703253.cms (Royal711 (talk) 03:32, 20 March 2020 (UTC))

 Already done - That was old count which was updated previously now ita 195. Mayankj429 (talk) 05:43, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

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Pls add Himachal Pradesh name in statistics, yesterday 2 cases are find positive as timeline said — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royal711 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done As per Mohfw update this morning. - Mayankj429 (talk) 05:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Could someone please add the State Vehicle Abbreviation next to the Total row so that it is easier to read? Abbreviations can be found here: States_and_union_territories_of_India#States — BhaskarNS (talk) 03:15, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Vehicle abbreviation didn't have any meaning here. I don't think that it would make table easier to read. Also this article is not only limited for Indian readers but for complete globe, not everyone know this code. Brown Chocolate (talk) 05:54, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Covid-19 testing in India extended to all pneumonia cases. Earlier, testing was limited to symptomatic patients and ,as part of sentinel surveillance, to only random samples of pneumonia cases.

Soruce:

https://indianexpress.com/article/coronavirus/covid-19-india-test-coronavirus-pneumonia-6324733/ shreyas112358 05:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks Shanze1 (talk) 05:49, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/indigo-announces-pay-cut-for-all-employees-ceo-to-take-25-reduction/articleshow/74708383.cms

Indigo is grounding a few planes, Spicejet, GoAir and AirAsia are also impacted. Spicejet and GoAir suspends international operations. AirAsia also freezes staff hiring. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Someone20111 (talk • contribs) 06:39, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done Someone20111 , (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 06:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC))

Note that the health ministry updates TWICE a day. Therefore, it is better that morning's numbers (which typically arrive at 10 AM) are followed as they are from the previous day.

In the charts, it is incorrectly stated that the total number of cases was 2069 on 2nd and 2301 on 3rd. They were both numbers from same day i.e. 2nd. Please correct the charts.

The evening numbers for 3rd are in. Better wait for the morning numbers to come in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.181.38.184 (talk) 14:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Shanze1 SaiP TheRichardPinto Mr.Mani Raj Paul Brown Chocolate DiplomatTesterMan Kautilya3 You would have noticed that confirmed cases reported by state governments today have not been updated by mohfw in evening, and the total is being reported above 850 while we still show 724, this is a huge difference. What should be done, Wait for Mohfw till tommorow or update it with other source?

Other sources - 1) A crowdsourced project which also records database of each patient with a source - covid19india.org [2] 2) The Hindu live tracker - [3] - Mayankj429 (talk) 16:45, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion, we should have two sources. The following two sources seem to be close enough and updating daily. You all know these sources very well.

Worldometers - This website is run by an international team of developers, researchers, and volunteers.

Covid19India - A voluntary group of enthusiasts who are curating the news coming from state bulletins, press releases and news houses. SaiP (talk) 16:56, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@SaiP: Worldometers are using covid19india.org as a source see here [4] below they have given sources. - Mayankj429 (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: We can go with Covid19India then. SaiP (talk) 17:15, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@SaiP: Ya i am also ok with it, lets wait for response of others too. - Mayankj429 (talk) 17:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Just don't forget that covid19india is almost live, it would be difficult to maintain. I mean there would be lot of edits just regarding the numbers. Brown Chocolate (talk) 17:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I was wondering about same. Checking it from time to time but no Update. I think covid19india.org is trustable as it based on other source mainly MOHFW, ANI tweets, officials state government tweets given in their excel database. Or else we have The Hindu (a better option). We should not consider worldometers as per this discussion. First let us wait for MOHFW. BTW today we see too much increase in number or cases. I am bit afraid now. Hope we would not be in condition like Italy or US. Brown Chocolate (talk) 17:05, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@Brown Chocolate: Maybe testing rate have increased, hope this not get such exterme in India. - Mayankj429 (talk) 17:14, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@

SARS-CoV-2 is 21 days. I read in an article. SaiP (talk

) 17:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah private lab is also testing now. At least our government took right decision on time. What makes me afraid is population of India and people who didn't take lockdown serious. Brown Chocolate (talk) 17:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Let's use Covid19India as a secondary source. It is more legit as compared to The Hindu and more India-specific as compared to Worldometers. TheRichardPinto (talk) 17:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

It is important to stick to a single source for the statistics to be consistent. I see no problem with mohfw, except that it may be a little delayed. That is not a big problem in the long run. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:26, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I also think we should keep following MoHFW to maintain consistency like Kautilya3 said. But if, new data is unavailable at Mohfw for a day or more. Then we can use a secondary source - covid19india.org can be trusted. Shanze1 (talk) 03:30, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• No: to Covid19India, I am followin their site for quite sometime now, I am following their Telegram channel(s) as well. They are seriously doing amazing work. Still, I feel we should not update count based on their stat. Several times I have seen they update count, and later decrease it 1 or 2, when they find some information were inaccurate/duplicate. I notice this at least once/twice a day. --Titodutta (talk) 05:28, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Our first priority is only MOHFW, secondary source can also be prefer (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 05:27, 28 March 2020 (UTC))

To update total number of cases we should only use MOHFW as source. But to update tables and graphs of daily new cases we should use covid19india.org as our source. Brown Chocolate (talk) 08:29, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Per

WP:PSTS, we could use a primary source and a secondary source. SaiP (talk

) 09:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

We could do like this as well

2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States#CDC_reported_US_totals. SaiP (talk

) 13:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

The stats of cases and increase percentage being shown in timeline and statistics section contradict with each other. For last 7-8 days, not a single figure is matching. Can someone please look into this that which one is correct. Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 20:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: The inconsitency is due to use of different sources in both sections. In statistics section strictly mohfw.gov.in have been used. Mohfw updates its data only twice in a day, so some cases are updated by them a day later state governments announce them.

But in Timeline chart the data previously was used from worldometers.info by different editors, this source locally collect data from various other sources. Thats why its count on that day is higher as mohfw updates some cases on next day.

I would suggest to take government source more credible. So the Timeline chart can be updated as per mohfw data from statistics section. Please other editors give their opinion to resolve this inconsitency. - Mayankj429 (talk) 00:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@Shanze1: @SaiP: TheRichardPinto @Mr.Mani Raj Paul: @DiplomatTesterMan: @Kautilya3: MOHFW is a official source. But if we are using it for daily new cases, we get highly inaccurate data. Like yesterday MOHFW updated (only at morning, then directly at 3 am) only 30 cases but we all know it was about 150. If we are using MOHFW then we are giving fake data in statistics as state government had already confirmed those cases. Mostly we are updating cases a day late due to MOHFW lag. Therefore I don't think we should you MOHFW source for statistics. We can use covid19india.org for daily statistics as it based on State government officials announcement. According to them yesterday 151 cases were reported (See their excel database). I wish MOHFW would have a section for daily new cases. Brown Chocolate (talk) 03:07, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Agree You are right. Delayed updates are fine for everything else except daily new cases. I think we can use covid19india.org as secondary source for accurate values when required. Shanze1 (talk) 03:58, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

 Disagree The data on covid19india.org is crowd-sourced as they have mentioned clearly in their website. Moreover, there is a question on validating cases (For e.g. few cases turns out negative after positive on second test etc.) which the MoHFW does I believe, so it takes little time. Amkgp (talk) 17:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

The page is bound to have inconsistencies at this point. The same data is shown in multiple forms - text form in introduction, map and text format in infobox, map and chart format in timeline, table and bar graph format in statistics, and God knows wjere TheRichardPinto (talk) 04:08, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

There are bound to be inconsistencies at this point. The same data is shown in multiple formats - text format in introduction, map sms text format in timeline, map and graph format in timeline, table and graph format in statistics, and God knows where else. It is very difficult to update each and every one of the formats each and every time MOHFW updates the numbers. Please consider removing a few tables, charts, graphs for now. These can be added once this all gets over. TheRichardPinto (talk) 04:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I would suggest that for total number of cases, total state cases we would only use MOHFW. But to update graphs and tables for daily new cases we should use Covid19india.org . Brown Chocolate (talk) 08:23, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@Brown Chocolate: The graphs are based on the numbers, if the two sources do not agree in numbers. There would inconsistency where numbers are showing one thing and the graphs are showing other. Don' you think? SaiP (talk) 09:38, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: Remember
  WP:VNT. As long as we use a single source for any particular chart or figure, and state the source, we are ok. If different sources disagree on a day-to-day basis, that is only to be expected. For the infobox, somebody added yesterday "official" and "unofficial" figures. That is a good solution for counteracting the delay in government data. So let us adopt that. -- Kautilya3 (talk
  ) 09:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Agree with Kautilya3. SaiP (talk) 09:38, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

MOHFW never mention daily new cases on their site, we assume by our self. I am not talking about cases in infobox. You know yesterday there were almost 150 new cases but if we follow MOHFW it would be only 30. Better we find other source which clearly mention daily new cases. Agree? Brown Chocolate (talk) 09:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Fine. But use one source for each table/chart, cite the source, and update the data consistently for all dates using the archives, e.g. [5]. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:00, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: we are considering to use this spreadsheet data by by covid19india. Would it be OK? Brown Chocolate (talk) 12:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

If you want to use it for daily new cases, that is fine. But do not use it for the infobox or cumulative charts/tables. It is unverified information. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Let use MoHFW for Infobox and charts. We will use COVID19INDIA as secondary source in Infobox. This is being followed by many others. Here's one

2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United States. If we don't use, we would end up showing wrong information as MoHFW website updates at a particular time of a day and not live. SaiP (talk

) 13:29, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

We could do like this as well

2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States#CDC_reported_US_totals SaiP (talk

) 13:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

• Karnataka: Please update day by day data from
  2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Karnataka, which is being updated regularly based on official Media Bulletin by Government Of Karnataka, Department Of Health and Family Welfare Services (check the Table and the References) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhaskarns (talk • contribs
  ) 05:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Number of deaths increased upto 20.[1] There is difference of statistics in number of confirmed cases in other states too. It looks like central government is hiding original data, to cease panic in country. We cannot rely on a single source only. We must cite other available reliable sources too. 119.160.68.62 (talk) 20:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

This article cites a BBC news link to claim that the Tablighi Jamaat was held on 31 March 2020. However, news articles have shown that the Jamaat was held on 13 - 15 March 2020. Request to correct this misleading error. JPGFACTFINDER (talk) 14:17, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Fixed it. TheRichardPinto (talk) 19:33, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi. Can someone please add this in the International help section.

India sent 90 tonnes of Personal protective equipment (PPE) to Serbia to fight against corona virus amid crisis for requirement in home country ^[1]

Thanks Jainvaibhav1307 (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Please update the following information in timeline for 28 March 2020.

In Delhi, thousands of migratory workers from adjacent states of UP and Bihar were seen at Anand Vihar Bus station for going to their hometown amid crisis of coronavirus. ^[2] Though immediate action was taken by CM of Delhi by providing them shelter and cooked food to mitigate the effects and CM of UP My. Yogi also provided 1000 bus services to take these stranded people on roads to their hometown

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We must cite official number and non-official numbers side by side. it looks like that officials may be hiding actual span of death to cease panic. 119.160.69.63 (talk) 08:32, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Proposed changes

Change Info box from

Deaths 62^[3]

to

Deaths reported

official 62^[3]

non-official 68^[4]

 Not done Thanks for the proposal. But as of now, we only believe cases numbers mention by MOHFW. Thanks. Amkgp (talk) 16:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

How can a handful of people can control dissemination of knowledge by nit allowing to edit an open plateform. This is a serious misuse of the arbitrary powers. Some people are far more updated and subject expert that some wiki guys. GROW! saurabh loves wiki (talk) 08:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

References

The number of cases in the state of Andhra Pradesh has been confirmed as 226 till date as announced by government of the state in twitter I'd @ArogyaAndhra Kingksp45 (talk) 07:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Thanks for the update Kingksp45, but to avoid inconsistency in data and trends we only update taking mohfw.gov.in as the source, so no. of cases in Andhra pradesh will be updated when mohfw updates them. - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Statewise statistics are out of date.. not updated. Sarafvpz (talk) 12:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

 Comment: They are upto date with the source we use that is mohfw.gov.in - Mayankj429 (talk) 15:07, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

What exactly is the purpose of the Timeline section? Currently it mainly focuses on Kerala and Delhi cases. Whereas a better timeline is given at

Its purpose is to describe the progress and spread of the disease. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Why did you remove the mention of government recommendations surrounding the events from the section? You didn't explain it either.VR _talk 16:05, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Because that is not part of the "progress and spread of the disease". There is a separate section on the government response. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:51, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

pls remove tag in entertainment section Royal711 (talk) 11:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Done today. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 07:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Why do we need a lengthy undue cries like "...which has huge effects on informal workers, micro and small enterprises, farmers and the self-employed, who are left with no livelihood in the absence of transportation and access to markets"? Especially when I had simplified these long cries with my edit here. I am skeptical of this

Ok, let us take this point by point:

• "Other commentators" was the original text. Clearly, it means commentators other than the WHO. "Other" does not mean "every".
• The "low testing" was added by Vanamonde93 to explain the low numbers of cases.
• We cannot remove the infection rate, because it is a fundamental feature of the pandemic in India, which is what this article is about.
• Why do we need "lengthy undue cries"? Really? The suffering of the 1.3 billion people of India means nothing to you? Really?
• I have no fricking idea what "FALSEBALANCE" you are talking about.

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

• Describe how "some commentators" is not more neutral? Masses have supported the lockdown.
• Still doesn't change the fact that "low testing" is no longer an issue for the same sources, nor it was a serious issue the same BBC article highlighted that efforts were under way to boost testing.
• We can remove the infection rate, since that particular sentence is unique only to this article. It has been encouraging some to dispute the statistics on the lead. The disputed sentence above was added only for creating the balance which seems inaccurate now.
• "lengthy undue cries" is the right description for those 29 words which are obviously not needed here. "worried about economic devastation" already covers all possible economic aspects.
• Disputing the endorsement by WHO and leading experts, by giving more weight to mere opinions by non-medical experts is creation of
  WP:FALSEBALANCE. Why you added {{pov-inline|date=April 2020}} tag after reverting the improvements I had made? Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk
  ) 07:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

• The "other" has to do with the economists, as opposed to health experts. The "masses" are not reliable sources for Wikipedia.
• I will defer the testing issue to Vanamonde93.
• The infection rate is clearly visible in the statistics. Nobody has disputed it.
• The so-called "lengthy undue cries" are amply supported by the reliable sources. The scale and nature of the devastation requires explanation. It is clear that you are completely insensitive to people's suffering, and your judgement cannot be accepted.
• The paragraph already begins with WHO. You are bringing it in again in order to undercut the Indian economists, as if the Indians are supposed to outsource their economics to the WHO. It is completely UNDUE.

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:32, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

• Then add "Some economists" instead of using a broader term "Other commentators". I would still prefer "Some commentators".
• Since no one owns this article, there is no need to stall improvements.
• Then why this edit was made? It was made as a rebuttal to the infection rate.
• Do you have any recent sources? Those "reliable sources" were written way before government announced a number of relief packages and relaxations.[8][9] You have sections where you can provide "explanation", lead should be neutral and
  WP:DUE
  .
• I am talking about this edit of yours which removed improvements and then added a {{pov-inline|date=April 2020}} tag. You are yet to justify these edits. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 09:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

• Kautilya's edit was entirely justified. You cannot provide a health ministry statement about the number of tests as a counterpoint to an independent assessment about the testing rate; that is egregious original research. You need an independent source saying that India's testing rate is now comparable to that of other countries. It is fairly likely that such an assessment will be made soon, but to the best of my knowledge, it has yet to occur. "Some commentators" is a weaselly term that needs to be avoided. Arguing that the economic impact needs to be changed based on government announcements of relief packages is also original research. The section is currently based on analysis of what the government has done; any changes also need to be based on analysis, not government announcements. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:38, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

The relief package is seen by commentators as being inadequate and mostly unimplemented.

• Coronavirus: India's bailout may not be enough to save economy, BBC News, 3 April 2020.
• Kunal Purohit, India COVID-19 lockdown means no food or work for rural poor, Al Jazeera, 3 April 2020.
• Himanshu Sharma, India Must Reconsider Nationwide Coronavirus Lockdown Lest Economy Falls Off The Cliff, Outlook, 1 April 2020.

Shock treatments and publicity gimmicks are unlikely to work. There is no option but to face the hard job of educating the people on social distancing measures for the long term. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:36, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Can the PIB source removed and this source be used to resolve the Neutrality dispute with respect to the edit made regarding Lockdown in the lead? Santoshdts (talk) 19:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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In the timeline section, a Sikh "super spreader" and the tablighi jamaat congregation has been mentioned, so I request you to add this matter about the Palm Sunday congregations yesterday also - this, this, this, this and this can be used as sources.—Souniel Yadav (talk) 04:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Kautilya3 (talk) 06:01, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3, I don't want anything to be changed, I just want someone to add a sentence, "On 5th April, 2020, some Pastors worldwide arranged Palm Sunday congregations despite a ban on mass gatherings and a Pastor in Andhra Pradesh was arrested for the same." You can use the references cited above as sources.—Souniel Yadav (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

No, you can't add that here unless it has an effect on the pandemic. Please take it to the

lockdown page. -- Kautilya3 (talk

) 20:22, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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It is mentioned in the article in "Religion" section that "Hospitals belong to the Missionaries of Charity, a Catholic Christian religious order, are treating patients with coronavirus infections, observing the protocol required for infected individuals."

This is factually incorrect as the referenced source for this quotation says, the Missionaries are being trained by their doctors on how to treat coronavirus infected. But they're not treating. Also the Indian government hasn't authorized private hospitals to treat coronavirus infected. Athosindia (talk) 10:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Kautilya3 (talk) 07:14, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

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In Misinformation and discrimination section, following lines can be added:

Some doctors and medical workers were evicted from their homes over fears they may be carrying coronavirus. In cases reported across the country, healthcare professionals described the growing stigma they are facing from their neighbours and landlords, resulting in many being refused taxis, barricaded from their own homes, or made homeless.^[1][2]

Copied lines from

 Done Kautilya3 (talk) 07:17, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

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Free testing has started according to this source and this source says 1075 is a toll free number for testing. Please cite both references with proper sentences.—Souniel Yadav (talk) 04:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Kautilya3 (talk) 07:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

I suggest we move it to the template medical cases and transclude it like some other articles do to keep article length short. Like

Thailand data. Shanze1 (talk

) 06:19, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Remove - Firstly, I don't find that table much usefull. And then, this pandemic is not going to stop any soon, I am afraid the deaths can be in thousands ( hope i am wrong here ) and don't think it will be possible to keep this table then. - Mayankj429 (talk) 06:29, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Brown Chocolate Three possible things can happen

1) If anyone wants to keep the death table, please make a separate Template for this for modifying values. & Then we will add navigation tab for decreasing the leanth of table.

2) If anyone not wants to keep the death table. Please don't move the table into

Timeline of the 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India

, because timeline in future become so much longer.

3) According to me , Remove table in main article, we not need this. Mr.Mani Raj Paul - talk 07:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm also thinking to remove it. Looking at current situation, it is certainly possible that death count could reach upto thousand. So it would be hard to maintain it. Though currently I'm getting sources for almost every death. If anyone willing to keep this table, we can make separate template or put it in medical template like User:Shanze1 suggest. Let's wait for some comments from Kautilya3, TheRichardPinto, SaiP . Brown Chocolate (talk) 08:22, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Also @Mims Mentor: do you want to say something, you added it. Brown Chocolate (talk) 08:24, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

The table is too informative for me to whole-heartedly vote for its removal. However, I certainly know it will be very difficult to update and also too long if at all the death toll skyrockets in the future. I could only think of one suggestion:- 1. Create a new article for statistics and provide a link to it in the main article. TheRichardPinto (talk) 08:39, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

I always assumed that the table would eventually go, but I agree that it is informative. Let us revisit the issue in a week's time, when the number of deaths will likely exceed 100. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

•  Comment: - For now it could be best to put this table in a new template and as Kautilya3 said revisit this issue after a week. - Mayankj429 (talk) 09:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment: - As many said I Agree to it. And not just Confirmed Deaths table, we have many others which are not necessary in the lead article now although the would have been in the start. SaiP (talk) 09:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Brown Chocolate Table is moved here Mr.Mani Raj Paul - talk 10:52, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I will add few more cases there. Brown Chocolate (talk) 11:11, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Now, at least for me, It's too hard to maintain this table. I'm not getting any source for states like Maharashtra, Delhi, Telangana (which has majority of cases). Other states too didn't had much details rather than age. Also there are some confusions, sources (state gov) mention more number of deaths but MoHFW didn't acknowledge some of them and I'm not sure which. I am considering to remove this table. Any other suggestion? Pining: @Mr.Mani Raj Paul: @Shanze1: @TheRichardPinto: @SaiP: @Mayankj429: @Kautilya3: @Royal711: Brown Chocolate (talk) 08:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I can see how scarce the sources are for this. Besides some state articles have this table now - which I guess is more manageable. We can remove it from here and maintain only vital stats. Shanze1 (talk) 09:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Agree Appriciate your efforts to update it Brown Chocolate, but as i said before eventually we will have to let this table go as the daily new deaths are gradually increasing, and as you said MoHFW updates deaths way later (around a day) after update from states and some deaths which are due to co-morbidility of patients are being omitted too. This makes too much confusion on which one should be included and which one not. - Mayankj429 (talk) 09:36, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Agree with Mayankj429, Shanze1, and Brown Chocolate. It will be difficult to maintain going forward. Okay to remove the table. SaiP (talk) 18:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Agree . -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

 Removed I removed the table.

Kautilya3 we need to delete complete template right? Do we have to place Afd tag or speedy deletion tag? Under which criteria? Brown Chocolate (talk) 20:36, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Would you please delete the template? Brown Chocolate (talk) 11:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

I can't. The page creator needs to request

WP:CSD. That appears to be Mani Raj Paul. -- Kautilya3 (talk

) 12:28, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Tagging correct page creator Mr.Mani Raj Paul. - Mayankj429 (talk) 14:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@

Click Here, Dont, worry I have a idea, we will not delete the template,but we will remove death data. I saw here are 2 tables are available, but we can move one table to here to avoid conflict edits, The title of templete is not related to death ,its related to Cases summary, I think we can use this templete for other purpose Mr.Mani Raj Paul - talk

15:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Agree Yes, the first table (New COVID-19 cases in India by state and union territory) is getting bit longer in Template:2019-20 coronavirus pandemic data/India medical cases , we can shift that to Template:2019-20 coronavirus pandemic data/India medical cases summary and blank the confirmed death data there. - Mayankj429 (talk) 16:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Agree Sure, that sounds good. Shanze1 (talk) 04:22, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Table have been moved here. - Mayankj429 (talk) 13:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Apart from the title being confusing, there are typographical errors in the section and has been written in an informal style. It needs to be proofread and edited. By the way, does this topic need a separate title? N K Srikanth (talk) 04:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Is the term Migration appropriate for defining such large movement of people, as they had earlier migrated to the cities from their home? Reverse Migration or Return seems correct term. Santoshdts (talk) 07:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

 Comment: Hi, this section doesn't deserve separate section, I have renamed it as Migration and kept under Impact section, and it do need restructuring, requesting other editors whoever can help to look upon it. - Mayankj429 (talk) 07:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree that "Migration" is a misnomer. How about "Exodus of migrant workers"? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Kautilya3 Yes, it is much better. - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: @Mayankj429: Isn't Exodus used for large movement of people due to "Hostile environment"? there was no such reason in this case. Santoshdts (talk) 09:31, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

No, "exodus" just means mass exit. It is widely used in reliable sources: [10], [11], [12]. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

• The whole Migration section is filled with grammatical errors. Does any one here think, this should be re-written? Santoshdts (talk) 12:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

This section can't be say as migration because it is not for long time. This movement of leaving cities is just for few weeks. Escape from cities is the best title because people are desperate for leaving the cities. And the people whor are saying this topic doesn't deserve separate section, for your kind information lots of small labours, worker are left cities. In my village lot's of people came from cities. And it's not permanently they will return back to cities after situation become normal. Whole world media reporting this escape and you people don't think it's a big thing. Your trying to hide it. And the man who is saying there's grammatical mistakes in the section written by me.I saw many times The Guardian,New York times like website and structured my writing from their writing. If you think you know better English then writers of The Guardian newspaper. Than you must be learned from Oxford University. This issue of Escape of labors, workers & poors deserve separate section. Do not vandalise it. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 18:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

For you kind information, we are not trying to vandalize or hide information. The passage is written in an informal style. Encyclopedia articles must be written in a neat and formal style. This is for the sake of proper communication of the meaning. For example, using & instead of 'and' is not a formal way of writing an article. Without proper grammar and text I fear people will not understand it correctly which defeats your pupose of writing it. Coming to the problem with which the passage deals, it is an impact of the pandemic. It is better if it is included under the title "impact". It doesn't deserve a separate section. We are NOT trying to delete the passage. N K Srikanth (talk) 20:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I am copying the section below (and replaced it with the text from the lockdown article):

Please rework it to your satisfaction before inserting it back. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

editors, please fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skagraw (talk • contribs) 07:37, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks, you can edit it yourself at Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/India medical cases next time. -Mayankj429 (talk) 07:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

There is error in count of deth and recovery in the chart. Dipaksolanki2011 (talk) 07:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done There is no error in

chart and it is as per mohfw.gov.in. - Mayankj429 (talk

) 07:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

It will be good if we could add the "Summary of test results" in infoBox for quick information. This detail in important for readers. Rashid Jorvee (talk) 08:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

If a parameter exists in the original template, then I think we should add it along with the rank. Otinflewer (talk) 09:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Since the slogan is catching up for various reasons, where can we include this? - The9Man ^(Talk) 19:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Please don't. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

No. -- Amkgp (talk) 04:14, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

• Absolutely not. Slogans of covidiots, which is superstitious slogan by those who don't have any knowledge of the the virus and science.
  talk
  ) 06:41, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
• I was telling due its coverage. I withdraw my suggestion. :) - The9Man ^(Talk) 07:26, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

We should try to present info based on facts and logic rather than coverage. Amkgp (talk) 12:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is for just overview of issue and we have to add reliable information. Don't add info by watching the TV channel or reading a article from just Indian media. Our media many time hide true information. So we have to read article also from international sources like BCC , New York times, The Guardian etc. Don't blindly believe on India's media beacuse it's state controlled media. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 10:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

The colours of cases from 500 to 1000 is so similar. One can not differentiate that which state have 500 confirmed cases and which state have 900 cases. The map is confusing. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 10:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

We can't have a smaller range with cases rising otherwise their will be so many ranges, i.e. 500-999 range seems justified and the states in this range will have same colour. For 1000+ range may be a darker colour can be used. - Mayankj429 (talk) 13:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Table in Statistics section is becoming too large and unreadable as more and more cases are noted. I think it is becoming irrelevant and should be removed. Now it is a time to create statewise articles and adding

here to move that table in Template:2019-20 coronavirus pandemic data/India medical cases summary as the data their is now not usefull, so we can further take that table down in Statistics section as well. And regarding states article, their are already a considerable no. of states having that and more should be created as per severity. - Mayankj429 (talk

) 13:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I would be fine with the removal of this table as well, it is getting too long and difficult to understand. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 04:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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I found the statement such as:

• In Delhi, Arvind Kejriwal announced that if a doctor, nurse or hygiene worker dies during treatment, their family will be provided Rs 1 crore. HDFC Bank denoted Rs 150 crore. IPL team Sunrisers Hyderabad denoted 10 crore.

But this statement must be removed and replace them with similar and same texts but with Rupee value converted to US Dollars because it would not be understand to most overseas readers about how much the value have donation actually because overseas don't know crore, lakh, or arabs outside of Indian diaspora. 36.77.78.48 (talk) 22:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

This can be added. What was the conversion rate when this announcement was made? Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 04:08, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

We may use this template instead. Used here:

₹1 crore (equivalent to ₹1.2 crore or US$150,000 in 2023) Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 04:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Maybe it must change to

In Delhi, Arvind Kejriwal announced that if a doctor, nurse or hygiene worker dies during treatment, their family will be provided ₹1 crore (equivalent to ₹1.2 crore or US$150,000 in 2023). HDFC Bank denoted ₹150 crore (equivalent to ₹177 crore or US$22 million in 2023). IPL team Sunrisers Hyderabad denoted ₹10 crore (equivalent to ₹12 crore or US$1.5 million in 2023). 36.77.78.48 (talk) 05:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I suggest the colours of this pendemic map is confusing. It is easy to understand which state have most cases but beacuse it appear in dark red colour. But below that the colours for case range 1-30 ,100-300,500-900 so similar that a normal citizen can't understand it and it reduce the usefulness of this map and aim of this map. You can take example from 2020 Coronavirus pandemic in Maharashtra map it have Orange colour map and it very easy to understand. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 08:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I suggest to write different sub sections in Transport sub section about affect o

Truck transport , Aviation , Railways, Waterway transport due to Covid-19 pandemic. It will make this article easier for readers to understand. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 08:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

The article lagging and lacking with technical topics and topics about the health care systems. Topic should be added on

• Preparation of the govt (Government responses serves the purpose, I think)
• Health care and shortage of mask, PPEs and ventilator supply
• Testing procedure adopted (should be sub-section within Testing section)
• Mass migration of daily wage labourers (Added as Exodus of migrant worker, but needs some details about affected states.)
• Politics on Covid
• Research
• Policy

These points if can be included, will surely make the article interesting to read. I know a lot of information have to compile but it will surely make the article a good read. There are some information related to these are added, but should be eparate section. One can take ideas from other country's covid articles like US, Italy, Germany etc.

WP:BOLD Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk

) 18:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

talk

) 19:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Article already includes details about all of that. There is no need of any of these sections. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 03:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

No, it's not included properly, and even if some are included in bits & pieces are not segregated and written well enough. And my suggestion is not about something included with in a section, there should be sub-heading for these vital topics.

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) 12:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Their is no information of how many activite cases & deaths are happened in states on this article. Add a table about that. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 10:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

That table is already in Statistics in the article. - Mayankj429 (talk) 13:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please add this to where the Tablighi Jamaat is mentioned in the , "Timeline" section, "On 8th April, 2020, the Delhi Police traced Tablighi Jamaat leader Maulana Saad Kandhalvi in Zakirnagar in South-East Delhi, who had been on the run after an FIR was registered against him for organising the event despite the

Souniel Yadav (talk) 16:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. This would be UNDUE for this article. If charges are filed, then that might merit inclusion. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Can someone change the colors on the Indian map? It looks rather dark and distracting. The below color palette would probably look better. 117.206.90.94 (talk) 12:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Night Lantern any help. Thanks. Amkgp (talk) 17:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

"Rather dark" is exactly it. But there are miles to go yet.

Here is the current US map for comparison. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:41, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:GL/M.  Ṉight Ḻantern ^🏮

00:05, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

The darker shades was choose keeping view of the animated gif map which is being used to indicate the growth of the pandemic. If we change the palette (which I would also prefer) may leads to full recreation of all the frames used in that animated. If that's not a problem we can definitely change the pallets with lighter shades. {"

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Yes, Colours really seems way dark, and doesn't look good, i too think we need to work upon it. Regarding Animated Gif map, ya it would be too much too change all its frames. Pinging @Shanze1: who have created and updates the GIF in timeline regularly, what could be done here? - Mayankj429 (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, this needs to be changed now. I'm halting update of the gif map now and will think of doing it again in a later time using appropriate ways with different shades. So I think we can change the palette now like suggested. Shanze1 (talk) 13:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

  500+ confirmed cases

  100–499 confirmed cases

  50–99 confirmed cases

  10–49 confirmed cases

  1–9 confirmed cases

Suggesting this palette, keeping the darker shades for future ranges {"

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Agree XIIIX This is much better. - Mayankj429 (talk) 14:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done {"

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Thank you XIIIX Amkgp (talk) 19:41, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

The map have to be Dark Brown to it's lighter shades. United States of America's Coronavirus pandemic map is same as I mentioned. I don't know how to create or edit this kind of map but if anyone know, how to do it. Please continuously update it with in ten minutes. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 18:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Also change legends of Maps of Death. Maharashtra has 97 deaths as of now. And Legend only has 1 to 10 and 10 to 50 ranges. Abs robo (talk) 04:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Also change legends of Maps of Death. Maharashtra has 97 deaths as of now. And Legend only has 1 to 10 and 10 to 50 ranges. Abs robo (talk) 04:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Janata Curfew into 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was Merge. Content was merged to relevant sections of

Indian local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic. Shanze1 (talk

) 09:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Janata Curfew is a pretty short article about a curfew due to the pandemic. I see no reason for it to have its own article as it has no notability outside of the pandemic. – Muboshgu (talk

) 21:10, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

• Merge. A section about the one-day Janata Curfew in the main
  2020 coronavirus pandemic in India article is sufficient. There is no need for a separate article on this topic. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an indiscriminate collection of information. There is no need for articles about every conceivable topic. --Engineering Guy (talk
  ) 22:05, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per above. Brandmeister^talk 23:45, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
• Speedy merge
  Janata Curfew is very short article & it's not required a separate information. It is a one day event, I don't think it's sufficient. (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk
  ) 01:46, 22 March 2020 (UTC))
• Merge per above. Panda619 (talk) 02:59, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Definitely merge. TheRichardPinto (talk) 04:16, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Wait Changed my opinion as i agree with argument by @Netha Hussain: below. Merge Its only one day affair so merge it. - Mayankj429 (talk) 07:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per above. Brown Chocolate (talk) 05:41, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per above. Also, Is including the section Proposed merge of Janata Curfew into 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India under Bad way to pick dates intentional or by mistake? SaiP (talk) 06:12, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Wait Changed my opinion from Merge to Wait per Netha Hussain comment. SaiP (talk) 16:44, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Merge Changed my opinion back to Merge in the light of 3 week nation-wide lockdown which is explained in

2020 India coronavirus lockdown. SaiP (talk

) 08:09, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Should not be Merged Since the day has not yet passed and its impacts and results are not yet reviewed, it should not be merged now. As long as the the coronavirus pandemic lasts, there is a fair possibility that it would be reused again and again. So it is not clear how longer this topic would go on and how many other countries would reuse this term. It has been translated into 7 languages in 1 day. It should be merged after the coronavirus pandemic is over, at least in India, and if it deserves to be merged. Taking decision in a half day is not a good idea. -122.168.150.192 (talk) 06:41, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge. as per above Royal711 (talk) 07:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Wait- Given the scale of community spread of Covid-19 in India, I strongly suspect that this is not the only Janata curfew we are going to have in India. We might need more prolonged curfews, in which case the article will need to be expanded further. --Netha (talk) 07:56, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge. Already have one section for this here. Expand it instead of having a separate article. - The9Man ^(Talk) 10:24, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• oppose merge I would have opposed the creation of article till the event was over, but now that it's already in mainspace, I say wait for a while. We don't know what it's impact is or going to be, or if there would be more curfews. If this event receives sustained coverage, then we should keep it. And those who are basing the argument on "short duration", it is longer than film award and beauty pagent ceremonies. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:32, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Wait For extent of coverage by independent sources and impacts of the event. Extent of coverage by MSM is too significant to let article merge at the moment. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 10:46, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per
  talk
  ) 11:06, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

  @

  Dey subrata: the event has taken place now. —usernamekiran (talk)

  18:50, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

The article created on the day and when the event is going on and before it was over, fails

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) 02:17, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• Yes Merge it THAKURAVI (talk) 12:20, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per nom and above. Abishe (talk) 16:26, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
• Not to Merge The curfew is a separate event altogether though liked with this article but it has never happened in recent history. Hence separate article should be there I feel. -- Dr. Abhijeet Safai (talk) 19:12, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

• Merge Ppa20 (talk) 20:55, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

• Merge Doesn't deserve a standalone article. There will be many lockdowns and policies expected during pandemic. Can't have article for all. Accesscrawl (talk) 04:13, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

• Merge A separate section here is enough for now.Csgir (talk) 07:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge Janata curfew does not have that much information in itself to require a separate page. The content on the page is of "Actions by other states", "Misinformation regarding Janata Curfew", "Social Media Reaction" which do not require mentions in Wikipedia. The actual necessary content is only 1 paragraph which can be directly inserted in this page. Santosh L (talk) 08:32, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge It was a one-time event that was part of the overall pandemic in India. — BhaskarNS (talk) 12:29, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge No separate article is required. Vikram Maingi (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per nom and above.-
  talk
  ) 17:06, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

• Don't Merge. Why there can be no separate articles for states jist because of Small size? District wise detail is also necessary. Manakpreet Singh (talk) 04:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Don't Merge I agree with Netha Hussain. 114.29.227.124 (talk) 07:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge The scope for
  2020 coronavirus pandemic in India, which can be created when the need arises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack1455 (talk • contribs
  ) 12:48, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge Agree with what Zack1455 said above - Exactly what's needed now. Shanze1 (talk) 16:23, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

• Don't Merge Where are you going to merge the non-english pages of same article? Coz don't all of them have a "2020 coronavirus pandemic in India" article in their local language. To read an article in their own language, people use to search that in english first, and then select their language from the "languages" section. How could they do that for "Janata Curfew" if you remove the whole article and merge it somewhere else. The article should be merged only if Wikipedia is running out of memory. Be constructive, not destructive. All the reasons given here in support of merging have tons of exceptions in many languages around the Wikipedia. I have more reasons against Merging of the Article. Hope this is enough. -122.175.212.217 (talk) 15:47, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge - though it could be a notable event, content doesn't justifies a new article and that the parent article to considerate enough to understand the curfew as a whole. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge -
  Janata Curfew is not specific enough and does not warrant a separate page. RahulG (talk
  ) 05:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
• Merge - I agree with opinions by RahulG. Jawadhoot (talk) 06:05, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
• Merge -It will be good to merge the janta cirfew in coronavirus pandemic in india Jainvaibhav1307 (talk) 17:50, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
• Merge As per proposal. The argument is justified. Amkgp (talk) 05:16, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

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Regarding Maps in Infobox

There are some suggestions and issues related to both maps in Infobox. As i don't know how to edit them so requesting editors who update them - XIIIX Shanze1 Preet m m singh and others who can edit them.

• Second Map - Map of Deaths due to pandemic in India is outdated and was last updated on 7 April, now Maharashtra have 100+ deaths so a new range is also needed in this map.
• First Map - Map of the pandemic in India :- Suggestion : Colours used for 1000+ cases range and 500-999 cases range are difficult to differantiate, I think colour for 1000+ cases range could be more darker. - Mayankj429 (talk) 13:34, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Working on it {"

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Thanks @XIIIX: for updating both maps. - Mayankj429 (talk) 14:12, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Both the maps are as per latest official data using similar legends, darker shade for 1000+ {"

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HDFC Bank donated Rs 150 crore.[325] IPL team Sunrisers Hyderabad donated 10 crore.[326] Paytm donated 100 crore Venkyilango (talk) 00:44, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done It's not clear what changes you want to make. Please give us changes in X to Y format. Cheers Brown Chocolate (talk) 04:45, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Statistics

pls update statistics section India reached know 7000+ target Royal711 (talk) 08:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

 Already done - Mayankj429 (talk) 13:41, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

How can recovered cases in Goa and Andaman be more than confirmed cases? Shehzadrizvi (talk) 15:41, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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TELANGANA-Total Cases(531),Active Cases(412),Recovered(103),Deaths-(16) 183.82.253.175 (talk) 16:45, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done It is not clear what changes you want to make. Kindly specify in the format Change X to Y with a

reliable source. - Mayankj429 (talk

) 17:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Effects of lockdown

This 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

This article has just ONE footnote (Footnote 16) suggesting that the lockdown could be extremely harmful. You should be adding more references. The argument that the lockdown in India is very different from lockdowns elsewhere has been made most forcefully by

• Debraj Ray and S. Subramanian, "Covid-19: Is there a reasonable alternative to a comprehensive lockdown?", Ideas for India. Reprinted in Scroll.in as well as in The Wire.

A longer article, which describes specific issues under a lockdown and characterizes the problem as one of "Lives versus Lives" rather than "Lives Versus the Economy," is

• Debraj Ray, S. Subramanian and Lore Vanderwalle, India's Lockdown, CEPR Policy Insight Brief. Reprinted in India Forum.

These references should be included as cehtral references in the article. They could be added as new footnotes just preceding [16] and mentioned in the text. Aaboltaabol (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done These are not reliable sources and we cannot add sources without a justification. You can propose adding some text together with the sources. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 02:53, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

talk

) 06:57, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

RSN discussion shows that Scroll.in is not a reliable source and should not be used for controversial topics. Analysis of the Wire [13] shows we should be careful with using it for controversial topics and for this topic we should be avoiding it as far better sources are available.  CEPR [14] would require attribution and it is not a clear RS. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 07:08, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

The RSN did not tag the The Wire as not RS, secondly, the Scroll discussion is yet to give a clear tag. First was tagged as RS, then changed, then again some more comments and after that no discussion, not yet clear, a new discussion needed for this one for sure. CEPR would require attribution, fine, it can be added accordingly. But calling all these not reliable when its not clear, is not in good taste.

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) 07:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, we should be cautious and careful about what we are adding, but give new users a chance to survive here.

talk

) 07:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

And by the way, that CEPR paper is a good piece, a fact based research. I think there will be more such in coming days.

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) 07:42, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Statistical graphs required

First, the article does not give any proper information about testing. Testing is an important step in curbing Covid. And since the deaths reached more than 250 now and the recoveries almost reached 1000, the article needs atleast these important bar graphs to better representation of the datas. Other articles too showing these graphs.

• Tests per day (if datas available from Govt.)
• Deaths per day
• Recoveries per day

Some more will be required in coming days.

talk

) 08:45, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Data for Graphs of Deaths and Recoveries could be derived from this

chart. For daily testing data, ICMR releases it at 9 pm on their website but they delete previous day's data, each day i have updated it in main article from ICMR, so testing data on a particular date can be found in earlier version in history page of this article. If someone knows a source which have previous Daily testing figures, than do mention it. - Mayankj429 (talk

) 09:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Per

WP:CALC there is no need of a source for every calculation. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk

) 07:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks, All three suggested graphs have been added. Graph for Tests per day starts from 18 March as ICMR started giving daily update for tests from this day. - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:00, 13 April 2020 (UTC)