Talk:Classical music in Scotland

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• A distinct tradition? - In actual fact, there was a long tradition of art music in Scotland before the 1700s. Forms of art music which existed during the mediaeval period, include choral music and distinct polyphony, art music on the bagpipes of a degree of complexity etc etc.

• "Oswald's Curious Collection of Scottish Songs (1740) was one of the first to include Gaelic tunes alongside Lowland ones, setting a fashion common by the middle of the century and helping to create a unified Scottish musical identity." - This occurred long before then. Many Lowland (and some Northern English) songs are traditionally sung to Gaelic tunes, such as "When the Kye Come Hame". A smaller number of Gaelic songs used Lowland tunes.

--MacRùsgail (talk) 14:29, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not about art music, but classical music. Other forms of art music are covered at Court music in Scotland and Church music in Scotland.--SabreBD (talk) 14:43, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously - this is getting tagged for NPOV? All the points made in the article come from reliable sources.--SabreBD (talk) 16:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Classical music in Scotland is all art music in the Western European tradition" - I rest my case. -MacRùsgail (talk) 10:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The rest of the sentence is "... between its introduction in the eighteenth century until the present day".--SabreBD (talk) 12:11, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But it wasn't introduced at that time, it was there before then, and indeed, art music on the pipes is still played to this day. As for Western Europe, the only parts of Europe more westerly are Iberia, Ireland, the Faroes and Icelan.-MacRùsgail (talk) 13:23, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is no denial that other forms of art music were played before that point, but the particular form of Classical period (music) reached Scotland in the eighteenth century and that is what this article is about. This is a normal division in music scholarship and that is what this article is reflecting, sticking very closely to its sources. I really do not understand how that makes this article biased in its POV.--SabreBD (talk) 14:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am removing the NPOV tag. I am happy to discuss how the subject of the article might be clarified, or if some other arrangement of article is needed, but I do not see how this is a POV issue.--SabreBD (talk) 11:33, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]