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ALL TC grads get CU diplomas

The official Charters and Statutes of Columbia University dictate on page 97 under 'XXIV Teachers College' S243: "The University will confer appropriate degrees and diplomas upon students... the college shall grant no degrees or diplomas."

ALL TC grads get CU diplomas not just those with degrees conferred by GSAS (aka Ph.Ds). ALL TC GRADS ARE CU ALUMNI.

(My cousin got a MA degree from TC a few years ago and the diploma it is straight up Columbia University, no different from any other...) CUfiveo (talk) 07:27, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I am checking it out. ABCDE22 (talk) 08:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
@CUfiveo, your issue has been solved, I have corrected that. But plz stop bringing your experience in wikipedia. Bests ABCDE22 (talk) 08:20, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
The fact that Ph.D., Ed.D. and M.Phil graduates of Teachers College are granted their diplomas through the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences is not wrong; therefore it does not need to be corrected. If you look at my edits, I said nothing about other degrees and for a reason. I rather be safe than sorry especially when people are making 100k investments to get a degree (not just at Teachers College but at other places as well) and when you have Columbia Alumni Association and tables published by Office of Planning and Institutional Research casting doubts on that, I wanted to err on the side of caution and only write the degrees we have absolutely no clouds hanging over. But this is not something I am interested in debating so I will let it stand; however, Teachers College's status as an affiliate has been confirmed and affirmed on almost every official source and I intend to fulfill my responsibility to ensure that our readers are fully informed by noting its affiliate status on the list. --HamiltonProject (talk) 17:58, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
@HamiltonProject, your edit was not technically wrong; but I beleive it could be confusing to many readers. Some might interpret that MA and Adv. certificate and certificate are given by TC exclusively which is not true. I have cited source regarding it. I believe the source you had cited was about CU alumni association; about who is eligible to get in the association etc. That is the reason I think that source did not address the degree/diploma matter adequatly. Although you are free to write about Alumni association in separate section; if you wish to invrest your time in that task. Bests ABCDE22 (talk) 19:58, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Columbia Alumni Association website explicitly says "Please note we are currently not permitted to offer access to alumni of affiliate schools (Teachers College, Barnard College, Union Theological Seminary, Jewish Theological Seminary, and affiliate programs). The Graduate School of Arts & Sciences (GSAS) is the granting school for all Ph.D., Ed.D. and Masters of Philosophy degree holders at Teachers College. T.C. alumni from these specific degree programs will have access to the Alumni Community directory upon graduation". There is also the absence of Teachers College degrees in the table published by the Office of Planning and Institutional Research which seems to confirm that Teachers College graduates do not receive Columbia degrees but then you also have the Official Charters and Statues saying something very different. Teachers College is designated as an affiliate school and listing that fact on the list is something that should not be controversial at all but the degree issue is not a clear-cut case we have here. I like to err on the side of caution (better be safe than sorry) but again, this is not a clear-cut case like listing the affiliate status on the list and therefore would not further argue either way.--HamiltonProject (talk) 13:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
This is outdated from the Columbia Alumni website. I graduated from TC in 2017 with an M.S. in Neuroscience & Education. My diploma not only states conferred by the Board of Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York (signed by both Presidents) but I am part of both the Columbia Alumni Association and the TC Alumni Association.24.104.66.82 (talk) 17:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Please remember to login to your account, CUfiveo. Anyway, pursuant to Wikipedia policies on conflict of interest, I am asking you to stop editing Columbia U related articles going forward. Thank you.--HamiltonProject (talk) 04:36, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
But I have never said that TC is not an affiliate. You might be forgetting that I am also tried hard to keep the "affiliate" word next to TC with you. I just said WITH CITATION that, all diploma of TC are provided by Columbia. Bests ABCDE22 (talk) 18:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have made it clear that that part of the response was for CUfiveo as I am sure he is still watching. I trust you and the decisions you make. --HamiltonProject (talk) 21:23, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


ABCDE22, I stand by my previous statement that I trust your judgment, but whether all Teachers College graduates are granted Columbia diplomas has been a subject of years of debate due to contradicting sources. If Teachers College graduates are granted Columbia diplomas, I do not know how we can explain the quote from the Columbia Alumni Association above and the absence of Teachers College from the table of degrees awarded (see https://opir.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/content/Statistical%20Abstract/opir_degrees_awarded.pdf). I think it is better to leave it out (and not argue one way or the other about the degree status) to avoid future controversies and to ensure we are 100% accurate. I am not saying Teachers College graduates do not receive Columbia diplomas; I am rather saying that I am not comfortable with the level of confidence I have given the contradictory sources and the uncertainty of the controversies. Of course the ideal situation is to be able to say it with certainty, but given the contradictory sources, we are at least 100% accurate if we do not mention it either way. So I am more comfortable sticking to the fact that the diploma is signed by Presidents of both institutions which is 100% clear without any doubt if you look at the diploma and mentioning this in the article--HamiltonProject (talk) 19:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

(Much though I want to avoid getting into this argument!) I think we're making too big a deal of this and that's probably happening because of the obsession with the "affiliate" wording, which itself appears to arise out of the separate administrative and financial setup that the college maintains. While all that is confusing, the diploma part should not be confusing at all. Teacher's College is technically "Teacher's College Columbia University". Like all other schools, TC graduates are present at commencement ([1]). Therefore, it follows, that whatever diplomas they award are automatically Columbia University diplomas. --regentspark (comment) 19:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, RegentsPark. I think I am not saying that Teachers College graduates do not receive Columbia degrees, but rather am saying that because we have contradictory sources (namely, the table of degrees awarded published by Columbia's Office of Planning and Institutional Research), it is better to err on the side of caution and write what we are 100% certain about. But as I have mentioned above, this is not a clear-cut case like the affiliate wording so I am really not inclined to change things drastically.--HamiltonProject (talk) 02:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

HamiltonProject, I think it is pretty much clear that TC and BC grads receive CU diploma; as it is clear in university charter which I have already cited. I do think you mentioned cite do not speak of TC and BC because those are administratively separate. I do beleive we can not be accurate if we remove or hide such important information from wikipedia. That would not be the right thing to do. Again another important thing to say, it is not wikipedia's work to be accurate; we are obliged to write whatever crdible info is out there. We are not here to do original research and be accurate. In your persuation of exact accurate info you are trying to clear something which is intentionally vague and doing original research; which violate wikipedia's policy. ABCDE22 (talk) 04:45, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

And finally, I really don't find that TC and BC grads get Columbia diploma are a matter of debate at all; as it is clearly written in official charter and status that they receive. Also, I can bet no source from Columbia or otherwise denies that TC and BC grads receive Columbia diploma, that's what I can assure all after research of at least a year. ABCDE22 (talk) 05:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
As for the degree issue, I will let the other editors decide. This is something I do not have 100% confidence either way so my approach was to err on the side of caution but do understand that there are multiple points of view. --HamiltonProject (talk) 08:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion

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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 22:53, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. We must use a public domain item for the page's main photo. XXeducationexpertXX (talk) 17:21, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
No, we don't. This specific image might not be appropriate for this article's infobox but we're not required to use an image in the public domain. A suitable image can be used under fair use. ElKevbo (talk) 17:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, all. The shield of the school is fair use. For example look at the Wikipedia entry for Harvard. Unfortunately,

talk
) 21:55, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Change Logo: Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2021

Per https://visualidentity.columbia.edu/ logos need to be updated. Shield is not used to represent university. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University#/media/File:Columbia_University_shield.svg is not the logo of the university. Themak8 (talk) 16:58, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: what should it be changed to? Seagull123 Φ 22:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. TimSmit (talk) 01:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

I believe this could be a valid source for the change of logo: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/identityguidelines/identity1.html

Accordingly, "...the official logo is the modern crown adjacent to the full name of the University" --Glubbdrubb (talk) 10:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Sourcing is one issue, but we also need to have an image to use. Is there an image already uploaded here that satisfies
WP:IUP? ‑‑ElHef (Meep?
) 12:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload. Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used. Making sure that it can be appropriately used under fair use here. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

The correct logo is already in the article, at the bottom of the infobox: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Columbia_University_logo.svg/520px-Columbia_University_logo.svg.png --Glubbdrubb (talk) 06:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2021

Change incorrect US News and World Report ranking (7th in the world) to correct ranking (6th in the world) according to the source referenced and linked in the article. Prekmarg (talk) 16:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done Thank you.--RegentsPark (comment) 16:50, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

"Stand Columbia" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Stand Columbia. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 23#Stand Columbia until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 14:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Christopher Columbus

Can someone please take a look at my recent change to the entry and the subsequent anonymous removal of said edit? The removal states that the information is in the body of the entry but I don’t see it. If it’s there, someone please tell me where. If not, please revert to my change. George R. Brumder (talk) 21:40, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Note of William Archibald Dunning and the Dunning School he and his Phd students promoted (many of them became prominent history professors in their own right) have been excised from this entry. I can certainly understand wanting to exclude the huge influence this professor and his historiography had on the United States from this advertisement for Columbia but it's a violation of our neutral point of view, due weight, and advertisement policies. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Please
assume good faith of other editors. The edit summary used by our unregistered colleague seems reasonable to me; it would be more helpful if you could respond to the objections that were raised in that edit. ElKevbo (talk
) 00:39, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
How is it reasonable User:ElKevbo? It identifies Dunning's work and influence in the wrong century. It calls him obscure. And compares him to far less influential professors of history including Eric Foner at Columbia who has written extensively about Dunning and his legacy. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
We have to be very selective about what we include in this article given the history and complexity of the subject. Your edit added an entire (single-sentence) paragraph about one faculty member in a section where no other faculty member has their own paragraph. Your addition was also not integrated into any of the existing content.
Can you propose a version of your edit that is incorporated into the existing text and context instead of being a separate, stand-alone paragraph? ElKevbo (talk) 23:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Hmm. I agree that we shouldn't be pushing the bad under the covers. At the least, Dunning should be on List of Columbia University people (he is not). I also noticed that Mehmet Oz is missing from both articles so FloridaArmy is making a pretty good case for a selection bias. However, the IP is partially correct that the proposed text does not fit with the article flow so we should think about where it should be added. The text itself is not excessive but it does need something that tells the reader that Dunning, or the Dunning School, were an important thing (perhaps a better citation?). --RegentsPark (comment) 01:30, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

You also have John Burgess (political scientist). He stated that "black skin means membership in a race of men which has never of itself succeeded in subjecting passion to reason, has never, therefore, created any civilization of any kind." These were and are very influential scholars who left a lasting and important legacy. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:27, 13 January 2022 (UTC) Some of the work of these fine gentleman is noted here but there are oodles of sources including from Foner and many others. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:35, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

User who added the new paragraph here. I agree that Dunning was notable, though from reading the Burgess article he appears to be rather obscure outside of this niche regional topic in historiography, so if he's added it should be not for his scholarship and more for his connection with the school of thought, which is why the list I made centers more on schools of thought and fields contributed to by Columbia faculty than on individual people. If you can figure out how to list first the Dunning School, then Dunning and Burgess as founder and contributor, that would be AOK. On whether to directly label the Dunning School as white supremacist here, I'm ambivalent, but I'd err on the side of caution and say this might not be the best article for this discussion. Normsupon (talk) 01:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Burgess' entry states he was a pioneering American political scientist who spent most of his career at Columbia University and is regarded as having been "the most influential political scientist of the period." Part of the Columbia library was named for him. But again we don't have any room to include him, he's "obscure", and we won'taccurately describe these influential leaders at Columbia because they're not as important as Columbia students eating a lot of Nutella, the Yule log tradition (an entire section), or the band's performances during finals week (also an entire section and covered in detail for paragraphs). I get it. The two words white supremacist are super duper hard to fit in here. No room whatsoever. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:59, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Academic structure of university

The basic organizing units of the University are its 20 Faculties and 78 departments of instruction. The Faculties are commonly referred to as schools or colleges, depending upon historical circumstances. However, the terms are not synonymous, since some schools and colleges are units within larger Faculties. Academic activity is also conducted through administrative boards, institutes, interdepartmental programs, centers, and laboratories.

The relationship between Faculties and departments is a complex one. In general, Faculties are responsible for curricular programs leading to degrees and certificates, while departments provide the instruction required by those programs. The focus of some Faculties is sufficiently limited that they are simultaneously departments, while others draw on many departments to meet their instructional needs. Conversely, some departments are part of more than one Faculty. 2603:9000:6504:12BD:436:FD19:5018:AFB2 (talk) 13:14, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Columbia University sundial

I recently created an article for the Columbia University sundial. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 21:25, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Electrical engineering faculty

Do you have electrical engineering faculty? 31.22.151.119 (talk) 17:33, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

U.S. News & World Report ranking

Inasmuch as Columbia will not be ranked by U.S. News for 2023, and there is much reason to believe that its existing ranking of no. 2 nationally was obtained by fraudulent means, the article in its current form is conveying a misleading impression. 50.239.153.142 (talk) 21:20, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

School colors

Columbia's school colors are blue and white. Numerous sources dating as far back as the 1880s back me up on this. [2][3] The

World Almanac has been consistently reporting light blue and white to be Columbia's school colors from 1892 to 2022.[4][5] Blue and white have been noted as the school's colors in relation to campus design.[6] Blue and white are the main colors of its coat of arms.[7] The Empire State Building is lit blue and white on the day of Columbia's commencement, not for no reason.[8] The university has a publication, The Blue and White, so called precisely because those are the school's colors. The style guide is not an authority on what the school colors are, because that is not its purpose. It is a guide for making sure the school's promotional materials are stylistically consistent, and what shades of blue are permissible for use. The school colors go far beyond that, and lie in athletic, particularly rowing, tradition, not whatever the administration says in an internal document not meant to communicate to either students or the public. Nowhere does the style guide state that it is defining the "school colors" of Columbia. More likely, it took blue and white as givens, and set out from there to define a more specific way to present itself, leaving out white because there is no need to define what shade of white the school is to use. The style guide doesn't even exclude white as a color, it just doesn't mention it! Josefaught (talk
) 13:10, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

The historical and contextual evidence that you provide is meaningful. But the assertion that the university's style guide simply omits one of the institution's official colors is difficult to believe. The specific assertion that "the style guide is not an authority on what the school colors are" is not a credible claim.
I am not a fan of contacting subjects to request clarification but this may be a situation where that would be helpful and appropriate. In the meantime, we could report that white is commonly associated with the university but in the absence of explicit and current evidence we cannot claim that it is an official color. ElKevbo (talk) 21:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
The colors are blue (a certain shade of blue) and white. See also for example here. I think Josefaught's explanation for why the white sometimes is not mentioned is correct. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:17, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

My edit has been reverted again, for some reason. There is only one source, which is not even a source, that disagrees with my claim. And I am not only citing articles from 1915; the World Almanac is published annually. If you want more sources, here are some Spectator articles within the last decade that mention blue and white as Columbia's school colors.[9][10][11][12][13] Here's the assistant vice president of student services, quoted in 2005 alluding to the school's colors.[14] Here are some more articles from the 90's.[15][16][17] Here's the Columbia athletics departments calling its own teams the "Columbia blue and white"/[18] Here's the director of intercollegiate athletics directly quoted as saying, "We are proud to honor the heritage of the great men and women who have competed wearing the Columbia Blue and White."[19] And here again.[20] This article's from 2021.[21] Here's the university's athletic website, stating without ambiguity that the school's colors are light blue and white.[22] Here's the NCAA website, listing Columbia's colors as Columbia blue and white.[23] If that one's unreliable, some one must have screwed up royally. This is not a controversial issue. I do not see any reason for this discussion to continue. The editor who first made the deletion is not even participating in this anymore. Unless the Columbia student body has collectively hallucinated as second color over the past century, or the university administration has decided to axe white without telling any of its students or athletic directors or even its own administrators(???), there must be a good reason why one (one!!!) source (which isn't even a source on the topic???) is holding back this editing process. Josefaught (talk) 04:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

You made an edit that claims a current fact citing only a source that is over one hundred years old. That is clearly a problem. If you want to claim that this is a current, official school color then you need to provide a current, official source that explicitly supports that. Otherwise, I've already proposed a perfectly reasonable compromise. (And note that institutions usually have different colors for their athletic program so that's not often a good source for the institution's colors.) ElKevbo (talk) 12:33, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
School colors are primarily an athletic affair, but per Newyorkbrad's source, that doesn't even matter, because it's used the same in all other aspects of the university. But the university athletic department is as high an authority as you will be able to find. Barring the incredibly unlikeliness of the university's athletic teams using blue and white (which I think is pretty indisputable) while the administration has only explicitly adopted blue (whatever it means to adopt; what kind of university every "formally" adopts colors? As far as I can tell Columbia does not have a standing committee on school colors) but uses blue and white in all of its campus decoration, promotional material, academic regalia, heraldry, etc., I think it's safe to say that the university's athletics are a fine source on this topic.
I will be reverting the edit, with a "current, official source", as you wish. Josefaught (talk) 14:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
@
WP:OR to me and you need a source that explicitly says blue and white are the university colors (whatever that means). --RegentsPark (comment
) 16:47, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
but uses blue and white in all of its campus decoration, promotional material - No, who told you that? TrangaBellam (talk) 16:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Certainly, other colors exist on Columbia's campus.
The first editor to take off white asked for a source. I gave one. ElKevbo reverted and asked for a more recent source. I gave one. It's a university press release, explicitly stating that blue and white are the university's colors. I have given dozens of other sources above as well. Weighing the value of different sources is not

WP:UNDUE
policy wouldn't be possible. Applying definitions to words is not WP:OR. Recognizing the nature and purpose of sources, and where realistically any statement of a fact can be expected to come from is not WP:OR. You are not going to find an official source from the administration (as if the athletics department isn't a part of the administration; as if it wasn't the case that, according to the article on school colors, they are basically a matter of athletic branding and school (athletic) spirit) other than from the athletics department, which has stated unambiguously in the source listed that the university's colors are blue and white. If this isn't a satisfactory notion of what school colors are, please provide another one, because as far as I see it I have listed over twenty sources saying that white is also a school color, and the only cause for doubt is an internal administrative document which is meant for making sure the school's promotional materials are stylistically consistent and aesthetically pleasing, and nothing else. Are we not allowed to say that Columbia's colors are blue and white (ignoring all evidence to the contrary) unless all their admissions pamphlets are printed in white text on a baby blue background? Could there be another reason why Columbia would want its offices to use black ink? If Columbia doesn't explicitly state that the shade of white, a filler, secondary, and default, and therefore easily forgotten color, it wants to use is #FFFFFF, does that mean it can't be a school color? All school history, and even university statements from as recent as last year point to the school having two colors.
I give up. This is a useless argument. If Wikipedia can bear falsehoods, I won't revert again. Josefaught (talk) 05:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, if we do not have a source that explicitly says that white is one of the university's official colors then we cannot say that white is one of the university's official colors. Please direct your frustration at the people who wrote the university's style guide, not us.
I would be fine with us including this color as long as we also include a footnote noting that although it's not included in the current style guide it is included in many other sources particularly those that focus on the university's athletic teams. ElKevbo (talk) 10:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

columbia protests are buried within article

There are just two sentences in this entire article about the protests and occupation of campus buildings in 1968, yet there is an entire article on the subject. WTF? Dibromoindigo (talk) 20:25, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

That sounds generally in keeping with
WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. The whole point of that sort of subtopic having its own article is that there's too much to say here in the parent article about the more general topic. The school's main article is definitely not supposed to be "everything about the school". But obviously the exact wording of the summary-content here is fair game for discussion and improvement. DMacks (talk
) 22:39, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

"4 undergraduate colleges" is incorrect

The wiki should be corrected to reflect that there are three undergraduate schools.

Columbia's website (https://www.columbia.edu/content/admissions) : Columbia offers a comprehensive array of academic programs. These include three undergraduate schools, fourteen graduate and professional schools, a world-renowned medical center, four affiliated colleges and seminaries, twenty-six libraries, and nearly two hundred research centers and institutes.

The wikipedia page: Columbia is organized into twenty schools, including four undergraduate schools and 16 graduate schools. Rhurj88 (talk) 15:44, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Legal name of the university

The article states that Columbia is known "officially as Columbia University in the City of New York". This is technically untrue; as referenced in the Organization section, the full legal name of the university is "The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York". Although this refers to the university as a corporate entity rather than in the more common academic sense, "Columbia University in the City of New York," omitting "The Trustees of...," is, legally speaking, no more official than simply "Columbia University". Reference should be made to this at the start of the article. Wolframing (talk) 03:43, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2023

Add Bjarne Stroustrup, "Danish computer scientist, most notable for the invention and development of the C++ programming language", to the list of notable alumni faculty. He is a member of the Computer Science department. 2603:7000:9500:128:A920:4E30:1177:4E52 (talk) 05:55, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 13:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Josef Sorett

I recently created a draft for

Josef Sorett, the dean of Columbia College. Thriley (talk
) 05:08, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Largest private landowner in New York

Per this NYT article:

"As Columbia University puts the last touches on its brand-new campus in Harlem, it has reached a milestone: The university is now the largest private landowner in New York City.
In a city where land is more valuable than almost anywhere in the nation, the school now owns more than 320 properties, with a combined value of nearly $4 billion. The growth has helped it stay competitive within the Ivy League and meet its broader ambitions to become a global institution."

Where would the best place to add this be? The end of the "Other campuses" subsection? Mooonswimmer 15:59, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I'd try adding a few sentences to introduce the "Campus" section before the "Morningside Heights" subsection. The whole section could use a brief bit of context. ElKevbo (talk) 23:04, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Columbia worst ranking for free speech

My edit that is supported by multiple articles that ranked Columbia university as the worst ranked college for free speech is being reverted. Exmanminor (talk) 15:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

@Exmanminor: Actually, you provide only one source and a dubious one at that. You need a good source that not only quotes the study but also explains why the study is a reliable one. You also need to explain why this is "controversial". Was it heavily commented on? Did it result in a lot of press about free speech in Columbia? If this is a one off, it is not worth including. RegentsPark (comment) 15:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
It is controversial since it shows the lack of diversity of thought on the Colombia university campus. Exmanminor (talk) 02:59, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
it is not a dubious source. do you call fox news a dubious source https://www.foxnews.com/us/columbia-students-react-college-ranked-worst-free-speech-campus Exmanminor (talk) 03:00, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
(1) Criticism and opinion are not the same as controversy. (2) Fox News is not reliable for anything political (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources), and things like "free speech" and analysis of elite/academia are surely in that agenda. DMacks (talk) 03:56, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2023

Add this at the end of the first paragraph: "Its influence, wealth, and rankings have made it one of the most prestigious universities in the world." 2600:4040:9754:3000:159B:3032:3C0E:8274 (talk) 21:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done:
WP:PUFFERY Cannolis (talk
) 21:35, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2023

Change the picture of the coat of arms - logo of the university to match the institution's visual identity guidelines.

It can be found on this website: https://www.wikicu.com/University_Shield Studentoftheworld123 (talk) 14:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The website you cited says that the symbol is loosely regulated, and I am concerned that uploading the depiction of the official version as stated there would be a copyright violation. To request an upload of an image, use
Talk • Contribs
22:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2023

The coat of arms are not in line with the university's visual identity guidelines please replace with the up to date shield (can be found here: https://www.wikicu.com/University_Shield) Studentoftheworld123 (talk) 11:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
"change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk
) 17:50, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2024

I suggest that you link the columbia blue text in the information with the corresponding wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_blue Studentoftheworld123 (talk) 09:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: this is part of the Template:College color list. M.Bitton (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Note about media caption under subheading 1.1 "18th Century" (Columbia University ➔ 1. History ➔ 1.1 18th Century)

In the caption for the last image within this subsection, "The 1797 Taylor Map of New York City...", there is an minor inconsistency between the image and the caption (if one would consider it an inconsistency). The caption specifically states that the map is "showing 'The College' at its Park Place (then Robinson Street) location".

As the caption uses quotes around "The College", I am assuming that it is treating the phrase as an excerpt from the image, and is supposed to match with text in the image. However, in the image of the map, Columbia University is actually denoted by "The Colledge". Wondering if this is important enough to copyedit? Kurisupi.dbf (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It's important to maintain accuracy and consistency in Wikipedia captions. In this case, the difference between "The College" in the caption and "The Colledge" in the image may indeed be considered a minor inconsistency. To ensure accuracy, it would be a good idea to update the caption to match the exact wording used in the image, which is "The Colledge."
Making this adjustment will help ensure that the caption accurately reflects the content of the image, and it aligns with Wikipedia's standards for precision and consistency. If you believe this edit is warranted, please go ahead and make the change. If you have any further questions or need assistance with the editing process, feel free to ask. 207.96.13.213 (talk) 18:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
In that case, I will make an edit. Thank you! Kurisupi.dbf (talk) 04:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)