Talk:Dominant (music)
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Gregorian chant
- "In Gregorian chant, each mode has its own dominant, or reciting tone. In most modes this is on the fifth above the final, but in some modes it is a fourth, or even a third, above the final."
I think this terminology is fairly common but widely discouraged as misleading, since the "dominant" of the gc mode does not function at all like that of a major-minor dominant. Hyacinth 20:33, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Still, it should appear somewhere. --Wahoofive 20:58, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I agree it must be somewhere. It could either be in this article or somewhere like
- Though "the choice [dominant] is perhaps unfortunate, for it suggests a relationship to the dominant of tonal harmony," cofinal seems to have another meaning. Sorry all. Hyacinth10:41, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Merge with Perfect fifth
- Conversation at Talk:Perfect fifth.
Which title would be kept? In other words, which article should be merged into which? Hyacinth 20:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- Why merge at all? They are two completely different concepts. It'd be like merging Crabbyass 13:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)]
- The conversation isn't here, it's at Talk:Perfect fifth. Hyacinth (talk) 19:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Requested audio
I have added an image and audio example. Hyacinth (talk) 19:36, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Introduction/Goal tone
I have never heard the term "goal tone" used before and it's not used subsequently in the article. There is no reference to such a term or concept and it sounds like jargon. I think I understand the point that the author was trying to make--that not all dominants resolve to the tonic. Let's rewrite this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaxelrod (talk • contribs) 13:33, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- It's not jargon, its everyday speech: a tone that is a goal. Hyacinth (talk) 22:01, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Proposal to unify the layout of scale-degree pages
The image in this article (specifically the image near the top that has a complete chord progression) is reminiscent of the song "Vive la Compagnie". The top notes of the chords (which can be interpreted as a melody) are similar to the song, only with only one note rather than several notes per 2 beats. Take the top notes of each measure in the image and:
In the first 3 measures, substitute 6 eighth note triplets (2 groups of 3) (Vive la vive la) for the first half note in each measure, and substitute 3 eighth note triplets and a quarter note (Vive l'amour) for the second half note. In the fourth measure, substitute 3 eighth note triplets and a quarter note + eighth note triplet combination for the first half note, and leave the second half note a half note (Vive la compagnie, with the nie syllable being the final half note.) Only one note will need to change, the quarter note triplet in the quarter+eighth triplet combination for the first measure (the com syllable in compagnie) will need to be an A.
(Once again, here is the same image:)
Georgia guy (talk) 14:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- It is probably reminiscent of lots of pieces, as the article [circle progression] should state. Hyacinth (talk) 21:59, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- What other songs is it reminiscent of?? Georgia guy (talk) 22:19, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- See ]
Requested move: "Musical scale" → "Scale (music)"
I have initiated
NoeticaTea? 00:11, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Merge: Dominant key
- Support although the dominant-chord section of this article should be rewritten a bit, starting with a description of what the dominant key is and putting the excellent Rosen quote lower down. —Wahoofive (talk) 18:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Fétis and "dominante tonique"
The idea that Fétis called the common practice period dominant seventh the dominante tonique obviously is wrong: the term is Rameau's (in the Traité d'harmonie, I think) and I doubt that Fétis used it unless in quotations of Rameau. I don't have access to Gjerdingen's translation of Dahlhaus mentioned in Dominant_(music)#Seventh_chord and I don't find anything of the kind in the German original. If someone had the time and the energy to check this, it would be fine. Hucbald.SaintAmand (talk) 09:14, 8 September 2016 (UTC)