Talk:Fifth Doctor

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23skidoo added this sentence: "Although a level of attraction was suggested between the Doctor and Tegan, this was never explored in detail." I removed it, because I'm not sure that any level of attraction was suggested. In fact, the show went out of its way to discourage any suggestion of attraction between the Doctor and any of his companions; recall that Peter Davison was forbidden to touch Nyssa or Tegan (although he was allowed to touch Adric; presumably, nobody could have thought that anyone was attracted to him!).

If you can point to a specific moment or scene that suggests this, I'd be interested. The Fourth Doctor and Romana? Yes. The Third Doctor and Jo Grant, maybe. But the Fifth Doctor and Tegan? I just don't see it. —Josiah Rowe 23:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's fairly common fan speculation (take a look at the Fifth Doctor category at one of the more popular fan-fic archives), but I think that has more to do with Davison's age than anything else. It's probably best to leave it out, IMO.--

Talk 00:08, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply

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Besides, to be very very coy about it, the rumors have really always been about someone else. Let's leave it out. --

khaosworks (talk • contribs) 01:28, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply

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Yes, but were those rumors about the characters or the actors? ;-) —Josiah Rowe 03:29, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the fact that I am being coy should answer the question... :-) --

khaosworks (talk • contribs) 03:35, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply

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You naughty man. —Josiah Rowe 03:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Really? He was forbidden to touch them? That's a fascinating note. It would help to explain some of why he always seemed so distant toward his companions. It's curious enough that, if you can dig up a reference, I think it might be worth jotting in a margin somewhere.--Aderack 11:06, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've heard Davison mention this on more than one occasion. I'm going away for the weekend, but when I get back I'll try to dig up a specific reference and add it to the article (unless somebody else wants to do it sooner). —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 14:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should wait on adding anything about Davison's potential return in a multi-Doctor story until we've got a more reliable source. At the moment, the source is "Outpost Gallifrey says that Sylvester McCoy says that Peter Jackson says that Peter Davison is going to go back to Doctor Who in a multi-Doctor story". There are too many links in that chain for my liking. If a UK newspaper picks the story up, we can use that as a source, but even as one of the editors of OG's news page I'm uncomfortable with asserting OG as a reliable source in this context. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, since the Sun has picked up the story, I suppose we can mention it: not because the Sun is a reliable source, but because it's a notable one. That is, we can't say that Davison is returning to the role and cite the Sun as a source; however, we can say that the Sun has reported that Davison is returning to the role. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"It was perhaps the awful realisation that his very existence begat violence and the weight of companion Adric's death on his conscience, and perhaps Tegan's near emotional breakdown as well, that led him to sacrifice his own existence to save his last companion, Peri." This reads like a poorly thought through sophomore English essay sentence, but the real issues here are that it is projecting New Series themes (the Doctor is dangerous to know and destruction follows him) and irrelevant events from past episodes on to what is a simple act of heroism. The Fifth Doctor does not need to have a deeper reason for sacrificing himself to save a companion. That's just something heroic characters do and that's all that can be inferred (without OR) from the episode. Fan-ish speculation does not belong here. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 06:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The idea that the Fifth Doctor is a "staunch pacifist" as the article states seems to be commonly accepted by fandom as a truism these days without much actual evidence for it onscreen. Aside from Warriors of the Deep, are there any episodes that depict him as a pacifist or even touch on anti-war themes? It seems people are confusing the Fifth Doctor's *passive* (unassertive) persona for *pacifism* (actively working against war and protesting against militarism and so on.) Can we please provide more evidence in the article to prove that this Doctor is a staunch pacifist?

Opposing the idea that he is a pacifist is the fact he guns down the Cyberman in Earthshock, shoots Omega dead, intends (albeit waveringly) to kill davros and stands back and does nothing to save the Master's life in Planet of Fire. If Warriors of the Deep is his only "pacifist" episode, one could just as readily say the Third Doctor is a pacifist, based on The Silurians, or that the Fourth Doctor is a pacifist based on his speech in Genesis of the Daleks. There is an interesting discussion on this very topic going on in a fan board right now[1], which is why I raise this subject here.

I realise we can't quote a fan site discussion in an article but it does raise the point that the idea that the Fifth Doctor is a pacifist seems to be a fan myth with not much real evidence to support it and that pacifist themes are explored in much more detail in the Seventh Doctor's era and, of course, in modern Who, particularly from the Tenth Doctor's final season onwards. 66.187.239.16 (talk) 22:40, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the Personality category for the Fifth Doctor? Was it removed? Were they not interested in adding it? Where is it? Vincinel (talk) 10:40, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]