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1) the second paragraph: where it says "still in use internationally and by internal resistance groups", add after it: "and in international sports tournaments".

2) the third paragraph which talks about flag protests in Jalalabad, move this paragraph down to the 'Islamic Republic tricolor' section because it probably doesn't belong in the lead: it is not a key piece of information about the topic (flag of Afg) to have it in the lead.

3) in the sub section 'Third flag (1919–1921/29)', change the final sentence because the wording makes it sound like Afghanistan was part of the Ottoman Empire. Change to something like "This new style of seal was inspired by those in the Ottoman Empire".

4) the final sub section 'Islamic Emirates flags': this whole section shouldn't be here as it belongs to Afghan rebel flags. Hnfus34 (talk) 17:33, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Awhellnawr123214 (talk) 22:39, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

a variant with a red sword is sometimes seen. maybe some form of military flag? see here: Taliban#/media/File:Taliban member with chest flags.png 2601:642:C481:4640:B47B:AEEB:F712:5AC9 (talk) 11:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed that after "Twenty-seventh flag (2002–2004)" the next flags are also titled Twenty-seventh flag, which should be "Twenty-eighth flag (2004–2021)" and subsequently the present flag should be titled "Twenty-ninth flag (2021–present)".

ALso it might be considered to change the titles to "[] flags" when there is more than one flag being presented. SashaSimon (talk) 06:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I fixed both headings, thanks for pointing it out. As for the title, this is the standard format for all national flag pages. Jamedeus (talk) 07:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have been trying for the past few years to get this misinformation removed. There is absolutely no such "2004-2013" flag; there was no change in the flag law of Afghanistan that happened in 2013, the description of the flag was the same from 2004–2021, and the only case in which a smaller emblem was used was from 2002–2004 during the transitional government. If the Afghan government website (when it still existed) had shown the flag's emblem was overlapping onto the bands, wouldn't that imply from the start that the emblem was supposed to be enlarged and not solely within the center band?? Another thing to take note of is that Afghanistan's flags have never been "stable." Flag makers in Afghanistan are not as great as western ones, and inconsistencies are obviously common, especially when many flags are handmade or made by smaller producers. Therefore, variants of emblems are going to be noticeable, and this was even the case with the 1992/1992-2002 flag, which I own some copies of in real life.

The description of the flag is: "The flag of Afghanistan shall be made up of three equal parts, with black, red, and green colors juxtaposed from left to right vertically. The width of every color shall be half of its length, at the center of which the national insignia shall be located. The national insignia of Afghanistan shall be comprised of an emblem and a pulpit in white color—at the two corners of which are two flags, inscribed in the top middle with the holy phrase "There is no God but Allah, and Mohammad is his Prophet, and Allah is Great." This shall be inscribed and superseded on rays of a rising sun, and in its lower part, the year 1919 in the solar calendar, and the word "Afghanistan" encircled on two sides by sheaves of wheat shall be inscribed. The law shall regulate the use of the flag and insignia."

This description was the one used from 2004–2021. The description isn't clear about what size the emblem is at all and simply says it's within the center, but considering the Afghan website shows the flag with the emblem enlarged and overlapping onto the bands like that of the Kingdom of Afghanistan's flag, that proves the "2004–2013" flag is merely a variant and never some form of flag introduced into a law.

Some sources:

Enlarged overlapping emblem, mentioned as adopted in 2004

Same site as above but an archived link from 2006

National Anthem sign off/on from 2007, showing enlarged emblem but slightly off-centered

Vexilla-Mundi showing the proper "2004-2021" date

April 2013 photo with enlarged emblem

2006-era photo with enlarged emblem

2010-era photo with enlarged emblem

Larger flag with enlarged emblem from 2005

2011-era photo with enlarged emblem

BlinxTheKitty (talk) 05:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]