Talk:Forced assimilation of Talysh people in Azerbaijan

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First source Nationalities of the USSR: an ethnodemographic survey.

Second sourceHistory of the "Great Terror" in Azerbaijan

Third source Islamic and Ethnic Identities in Azerbaijan: Emerging Trends and Tensions.

Fourth sourceTalysh: Editor Arrested.

Fifth sourceAllegation of Minority Rights Violations in Azerbaijan.

Sixth sourceAZERBAIJANI AUTHORITIES ACCUSED OF DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ETHNIC MINORITIES.

Seventh sourceWhy Did Azerbaijani Authorities Arrest Talysh Activist?.

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Ninth sourceCountries and peoples of the East.

Tenth sourceECRI REPORT ON AZERBAIJAN.

Eleventh sourceThe Peoples of the Soviet Union.

Reliable sources

In Defence of Minorities Rights in Azerbaijan.

AZERBAIJAN AUTHORITIES MUST RELEASE TALYSH ACTIVISTS.

Talysh are out of work.

The current version of the article lacks them. I didn't propose to delete the topic, but the article. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 11:27, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• • If there are the topic and sources, then why delete? These sources in English are alternative. If there is a topic, then the sources also exist.The Talysh assimilation is a actual topic and I believe that this must be in english wiki.Mad Irishman1789 (talk) 12:13, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Again, the proposal is to delete the article. No one has a problem with the topic itself. The phenomenon might or might not exist, this is not my concern. The issue here is that the article cites statistical numbers, and the sources don't imply assimilation. The articles also seems to be only about the Talysh people in Azerbaijan, so it can be merged (after massive rework) to Talysh#During modern history. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:19, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The topic is a rather serious and the decision will be made by the administrators, your case was deleted, and mine was to suspend the deletion of the article. The problem was in the sources and I will supplement the article with new sources. You have completed your task and we will look at the solution of the administrators. And the Talysh assimilation with the history of the Talysh cannot be united, since these are different topics.Mad Irishman1789 (talk) 12:27, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why do you deny the reliability of the sources? on what basis do you claim this? How did you check the credibility of sources?Mad Irishman1789 (talk) 12:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Why do you deny the reliability of the sources, check your tone here. Don't come here tossing around such accusations, and show me a diff where I denied the "reliability of the sources". You are trying too hard to not understand my comments. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I asked you a question and there was no rudeness. And at the expense of denying the sources, you called them not serious, isn't this denying their reliability? If you do not deny the reliability of the sources, then why did you put the page on deletion?Mad Irishman1789 (talk) 12:57, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

> the sources don't imply assimilation

The following sources do, though: [1] [2]

Books: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

Trying to delete this article given the multitude of sources describing this phenomenon would be quite dishonest. --Qahramani44 (talk) 22:29, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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