Talk:Genealogy of Jesus

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- Patrilineal heritage Christianhood usually give a great "rumor" on the fact that Jesus is not biologically son of Joseph... according to Jewish laws it is totally irrelevant. Even if semitic traditions have no adoption, levirate permits a son to be established as son of his legal father instead than of his biological father... so, Joseph recognized Jesus as "son", thus as "heir" too... - matrilineal heritage it is falsely supposed that Luke has a Mary-linear ancestry... Mary was not of the tribe of Judah, but of the tribe of Levi!... according to the fact that john son of Zechariah was a priest as his father, Elizabeth should be a Levite... and when the angel says "thy relative" to Mary, it was clearly because Mary too was a Levite... two things to prove it: Mary grew up in a sacerdotal family [the MAGNIFICAT was a mix of scriptural citations] and Matthew needed to enlist the cases of the kings of Judah that transmitted the throne to their sons even if the wives weren't taken of the Judah tribe... we have to have the courage to say that the gospel of Luke contains FALSE information - before Christ in the form at the bottom of the page it is written "pre-existence of Christ"... according to the gospel of john, only the body of Jesus is a sort of historical fact, and so only starting from the incarnation we can have a "before" and an "after"... but the "soul" of Christ [LOGOS, VERBVM] yet pre-existed the incarnation... so, correct to write "pre-incarnation of Christ", or "before the incarnation of Christ", but incorrect to write "pre-existence of Christ", because in a spiritual form he still was! - Mary virgin all the Jewish predictions concerning Mary say "betulah", which is not yet a "yalda" [female baby] but nor still an "ishah" [woman]... "betulah" is a "young girl"... we can affirm that she was 15yo when Jesus was born, so 14yo when became pregnant... in the first era of the hellenization, the word "betulah" was variously translated [almost five different forms]... the Greek "LXX" adopted "parthena", "untouched", "uncorrupted", similarly to the goddess Athena, maybe to set the texts more affordable to people belonging to Greek cultures... "virginity" of Mary, thus, is not present in Hebrew scriptures, but enters in the christian beliefs via the Greek "reading" of the facts.

-There no indication in the Bible or in the Hebrew study thereof that indicates the age of Mary. That and the age-old dispute about Mary being referred to as a "young girl" is in extra-biblical writings. The Bible calls her a virgin. The Hebrew word is "ginōskō" meaning "a Jewish idiom for sexual intercourse between a man and a woman", and in this case it is defined as an untouched girl or woman which is borne out in Luke 1:34. ^[1]David (talk) 20:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• • "ginōskō" is a Greek term : γινώσκω. The literal meaning is to know or to be aware. See dictionary definition here: https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g1097/kjv/tr/0-1/ Dimadick (talk) 21:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi everyone, I was wondering if the thumbnail picture was intended to have the word "Jesus" in black overlaying the Hebrew (text in white)? TattersallOriginal Duke Of Earl (talk) 12:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is already done so on the OrthodoxWiki, but I'm mainly asking this question because she is mentioned in the Genealogy in Matthew:

and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah. - Matthew 1:16

We already have this though mentioned in the article, but Mary's name seems to be implicitly mentioned in Matthew, does this contradict this paragraph?: "According to

Not certain that the writers were Hebrews. And the

Rachab, Ruth, and Bathsheba. Dimadick (talk) 07:53, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

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