Talk:Greeks in Armenia

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Yerevanci, if you could just explain the link between OSCE and the fact that Greeks in Nagorno-Karabakh have nothing to do with this article, I would appreciate it. There was no Armenia when they settled there and Armenia certainly did not make any efforts to settle them there. I fail to understand why the article about Armenia's population must mention a territory which even Armenian does not recognise as being part of itself. Parishan (talk) 17:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Let's make this clear. OSCE Minsk Group is the format where the Karabakh conflict is set up to be solved. The NKR is represented there by the Republic of Armenia, which means that all conflicting sides (including Azerbaijan) recognize NKR as de-facto part of Armenia. Just because the Republic of Armenia doesn't de-jure recognize the NKR, doesn't really mean anything. De-facto Nagorno-Karabakh is part of Armenia today. As an Azeri, you may not like it, it's OK. Fact is a fact that Nagorno-Karabakh is not controlled by Azerbaijani government, but rather by local Armenian authorities.--

talk) 19:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply

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Secondly, what happens at peace negotiations has nothing to do with this article, unless you manage to prove that the Greek settlement in the Nagorno-Karabakh region is directly linked to Armenia exercising control over it. If not, the reference to Nagorno-Karabakh will have to be removed. Parishan (talk) 04:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How is referring to someone by their nationality incivility? Is it an insult?

Well, the last time Artsakh (or Karabakh as you call it) was de-jure part of an Armenian state was in the 11th century and it wasn't until 1918 when Artsakh partially became part of the Republic of Armenia. Does it mean that everything that happened from 1045 to 1918 doesn't have to do with Armenia? For example Lebanese Armenians actually have nothing to d with current Republic of Armenia, because their ancestors came from Western Armenia, which is now occupied by the Turkish Republic. And now Republic of Armenia is the only international subject of the Armenian ethnics. Currently, NKR is de-facto part of Armenia and isn't it logical to put the number of Greeks in NKR in this article?--

talk) 00:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply

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The fact that Nagorno-Karabakh currently remains under the control of the Armenian army does not explain in any way the historical presence of Greeks who happened to live there and certainly does not encourage and/or contribute to the Greek presence in these lands. That the Nagorno-Karabakh region is currently a majority-Armenian area does not yet mean that Greeks should be mentioned in this particular article, because 'Armenian' does not necessarily mean 'pertaining to Armenia'. Parishan (talk) 05:37, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I didn't state it that way. As you can read above I said As an Azeri, you may not like it, it's OK. I didn't men it in an offensive way.

There are about 4 million articles on Wikipedia, I mean, does that one sentence really do anything?--

talk) 13:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply

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You do not even know for a fact, if I am Azeri or not. You judged so based purely on your stereotype thinking. And yes, it certainly does. On my part, I try to make sure that the articles which I edit stay on topic. Parishan (talk) 03:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As an Azeri, you may not like it is not an insult and that's all I said.--

talk) 14:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply

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