Talk:iOS 13

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iPadOS is merely just a special edition of iOS for iPads. The two operating systems are very similar with iPad just having special features. They also share the same core and software system. Therefore, I propose a merger of iPadOS into iOS 13, with iPadOS having its own section on the page.

• Oppose it seems clear Apple's plan is for them to diverge. Blythwood (talk) 22:06, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

By the logic of iPadOS having its own page, that would mean Windows 10 Home and Pro editions would have their own pages as well. Even if Apple’s plan is for them to be their standalone own operating systems, it’s best to leave iPadOS as a part of the iOS 13 page until it becomes notable to have its own page.

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Windows 10 Home and Pro editions aren't designed for devices with significantly different screen sizes and available user input devices, as far as I know, so I don't see that as the same case.

Guy Harris (talk) 22:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply

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Windows 10 Home and Pro is not comparable to Windows 10 Professional and the defunct Windows 10 Mobile.... :-) Shencypeter (talk) 00:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Apple seem to want to make it possible to develop apps for iOS, iPadOS, and macOS with as much shared code as possible, but provide significantly different user interfaces on all three (small hand-held device, tablet with larger touchscreen and the ability to have a keyboard and mouse added, notebook/desktop with an even larger but non-touch screen and with keyboard and mouse always present), so I don't see "sharing the same core and software system" as being sufficient to call them just small variants of the same OS - macOS shares much of the core, and even shares some of the UI code with Project Catalyst - and the UIs are probably going to diverge more over time.
  Guy Harris (talk) 22:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose this type of divergence is in line with watchOS and tvOS which are also merely special editions of iOS. Notice they still have their own articles here. The question then becomes one of notability as one can see things like audioOS also being of the same variety, however without its own article here. If it does not meet the notability requirements, I believe it will soon. Give it some time and if it still does not meet them, it can be merged later (at over five million hits on Google we can give this a little leeway). 17.226.15.91 (talk) 22:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Strongly Oppose While it might be made off of the same code base as before, there are additional features that distinguish it from iOS. Similar to how tVOS and watchOS are different. Yes they share similar code bases and apps are developed cross platform, but they're technically a different product. If you want to merge iPadOS into anything, it would make the most sense to merge it into iOS, not iOS 13. iOS 13 is a software version, iPadOS is not. GeekInParadise (talk) 23:28, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• I've changed my mind about the merge proposal. The oppose reasons seem valid. No more discussion needed.
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• Strongly Oppose iPad has been increasingly divergent from the iPhone OSes, and I think we should retrospectively include iPad specific features introduced a few versions back. :) Shencypeter (talk) 00:57, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• No Way. It is a totally different operating system for a different class of devices. The fact that the iPad and iPhone are similar does not mean the operating system is the same. Jdavi333 (talk) 01:49, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I’ve said before, no more comment is needed, I’ve changed my mind, the iPadOS article should be standalone.