Talk:Irving Crane

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Good articleIrving Crane has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
November 30, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed
December 7, 2006Good article nomineeListed
November 26, 2008Good article reassessmentKept
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 27, 2006.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Irving Crane pocketed 150 balls in a row in the final round of the 1966 World Crown straight pool championship; a feat that has never been equalled or eclipsed?
Current status: Good article

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Passed as GA

Resolved
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Hi, I just passed this article as GA. Here the summary (

WP:WIAGA
):

  1. Well written - PASS. I am definitely more interested in Crane now.
  2. Verifiable - PASS. Very impressed how this article is perforated with references.
  3. Broad - PASS. I am not a pool fan at all, but it shows what impact he had on and off the table.
  4. NPOV - PASS.
  5. Stable - PASS. See history.
  6. Images - PASS. Offending image now fixed, I saw just now.
  7. Misc - to anyone who says the article is too short: less is sometimes more (See spoo, a FA)

Amendments: seperate Biography into "Professional career" and "Personal life". Also special (albeit alread wiki-linked) pool-specific terms ("run", "safety" etc.) should be explained briefly, as they are not immediately understandable by non-experts. But this article is definitely a GA. Keep up the good work! —Onomatopoeia 15:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the careful review and pass Onomatopoeia. Regarding defining terms, I'll think about how to do so without disturbing the flow. With regard the structural suggestion, I wrote this from a chronological standpoint, trying to seamlessly weave together his personal life and his professional career as they unfolded. Certainly all of our lives are messy and it's not so easy to keep them separate. While I don't dispute that separating them out into sections would also be a logical structure, to do so would involve a complete rewrite. Thanks again.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[Marking topic "Resolved", as further assessment-related discussion should go in

Talk:Irving Crane/Comments, the now-standard location for assessment/peer review material, which has a copy of the above plus more followup already. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] 00:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC) ][reply
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Assessment comment The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Irving Crane/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following
several discussions in past years
, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

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;Passed as GA

Hi, I just passed this article as GA. Here the summary (

WP:WIAGA
):

  1. Well written - PASS. I am definitely more interested in Crane now.
  2. Verifiable - PASS. Very impressed how this article is perforated with references.
  3. Broad - PASS. I am not a pool fan at all, but it shows what impact he had on and off the table.
  4. NPOV - PASS.
  5. Stable - PASS. See history.
  6. Images - PASS. Offending image now fixed, I saw just now.
  7. Misc - to anyone who says the article is too short: less is sometimes more (See spoo, a FA)

Amendments: seperate Biography into "Professional career" and "Personal life". Also special (albeit alread wiki-linked) pool-specific terms ("run", "safety" etc.) should be explained briefly, as they are not immediately understandable by non-experts. But this article is definitely a GA. Keep up the good work! —Onomatopoeia 15:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the careful review and pass Onomatopoeia. Regarding defining terms, I'll think about how to do so without disturbing the flow. With regard the structural suggestion, I wrote this from a chronological standpoint, trying to seamlessly weave together his personal life and his professional career as they unfolded. Certainly all of our lives are messy and it's not so easy to keep them separate. While I don't dispute that separating them out into sections would also be a logical structure, to do so would involve a complete rewrite. Thanks again.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Have to concur strongly with Fuhghettaboutit. There is no compelling reason to split an article up into personal vs. professional sections if the article is well written chronologically (indeed, I think doing so would make the article lesser rather than better), especially if there isn't anything especially notable about the subject's personal life. For an article like Anna Nicole Smith, I think such sectioning would be important, but not for a non-scandalous pool player. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] 00:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
PS: If it grows to such a point that it needs sections, they should be chronological, not topical, e.g. "Early years", "Professional years", "Later years", or something to that effect. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] 00:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Peacock language
There are some slight
WP:FA problem. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 23:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
]

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