Talk:Jazira Region

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requested move

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Moved as proposed. bd2412 T 18:12, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Jazira Region is a new entity which sits above cantons. Better to create a new article and explain that Jazira Canton ceased to exist. Batternut (talk) 21:55, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Batternut: Once more, you misunderstand, the former three cantons have been renamed to regions (Afrin, Euphrates, Jazira), and they have subordinate provinces also called cantons (Afrin, Shahba, Kobani, Tel Abyad, Qamishli, Hasakah). All of the political infrastructure of the former cantons are intact and unchanged, they have just been renamed into regions. What are named cantons/provinces now are not the same as what was referred to as cantons before. AntonSamuel (talk) 21:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support - The established Cantons (Jazira, Kobani, Afrin) have been reorganized as Regions (Jazira, Euphrates, Afrin) with newly organized subordinate provinces/cantons, areas, districts and communes. The upcoming elections of the DFNS will likely increase attention in the media about DFNS and it administrative mechanisms, I suggest a quick move so that confusion is minimized. AntonSamuel (talk) 22:06, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Surely it is premature to change the article as the proposer (

Put on hold - As far as I can see, serious sourcing is difficult. While my impression is that indeed Jazira Region is denoting the entity now known as Jazira Canton, I would not know how to source that claim convincingly. I would recommrnd to wait for good sources, for now adding a sentence on the issue to the article as it is. -- 2A1ZA (talk) 21:58, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This article seems fairly well researched, and pretty clearly states that the former cantons have been reorganized into regions: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2017/08/turkey-syria-kurds-fear-improved-ties-ankara-washington.html Would you consider that to be good enough of a source to justify a move? AntonSamuel (talk) 12:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you can probably see as well as I do that there are some inconsistencies in the presentation of that source. But I would not mind you to go ahead, so here is my formal weak support for moving the article (in fact you already have rewritten the articles concerned for the new lemma anyway). However, I recommend to be careful with that source, as the author apparently misunderstands and misrepresents the previous canton system. -- 2A1ZA (talk) 23:23, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support - As