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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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I will start reviewing later on, but this article is quite large so it admittedly won't be fully reviewed until tomorrow. --K. Peake 13:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background

  • Target Deconstruction to Deconstruction Records on the quotebox
  • "In 1991, Kylie Minogue released" → "In 1991, Minogue released"
  • [6][3] should be put in numerical order
  • Wikilink record labels
  • Target indie label to Independent record label
  • Target dance to Dance music
  • "to forgo a major label contract." → "to sign an indie label contract." per the source
  • [11][10] put in numerical order
  • "liked [their] attitude," → "liked [Destruction's] attitude," because you have not mentioned the label name for a while plus [] is for paraphrasing
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recording and development

1993: Early sessions

  • "but their work was scrapped" → "but their work was mostly scrapped." per punctuation and since they have credits on other editions
  • "and intended to push her" → "with him intending to push her"
  • Remove wikilink on dance music
  • [14][1] put in numerical order
  • Target pop to Pop music
  • "in planning the album" → "in planning for the album"
  • "Minogue was flattered and" → "She was flattered and" to avoid starting two consecutive sentences with her surname
  • "said that this attempt suggests" → "said that this attempt suggested"
  • "the making of her album." → "the making of the album."
  • Maybe you should mention around the "were scrapped" part that however, Saint Etienne had involvement with the album editions?
  • Target Bob Stanley to Bob Stanley (musician)
  • "later remarked that her camp" → "later remarked that the singer's camp" to be specific
  • Target single to Single (music)
  • ""When Are You Coming Home?" but dropped it" → ""When Are You Coming Home?", but scrapped the song"
  • "on the tracklist and was the only song listing" → "on the tracklist of Kylie Minogue and was the only song to list"
  • "approached her to work" → "approached Minogue to work" since this is a new para
  • Introduce who Prince is
  • "she had written, entitled "Baby Doll". Prince" → "she had written for a song entitled "Baby Doll"; Prince" because the sentences are too short
  • "making Mama Said (1991), and" → "making his fourth studio album Mama Said (1991) and"
  • "Minogue and Bobby Gillespie" → "The singer and Bobby Gillespie"
  • [22] should not be mid-sentence when it is also invoked at the end
  • "but their record company" → "but their record label"
  • [22][19] put in numerical order
  • Lowercase the Beloved and the Auteurs per
    MOS:THEMUSIC
  • "for the album but they" → "for Kylie Minogue, but the material"
  • The source says nothing about the song not being released on the album
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1993–1994: Later development

  • "Deconstruction co-founders Keith Blackhurst and Pete Hadfield were" → "Hadfield and fellow Deconstruction co-founder Keith Blackhurst were"
  • Target electronic to Electronic music
  • "Minogue met the pair at" → "Minogue met Brothers in Rhythm at"
  • [24][16] put in numerical order
  • Img looks good!
  • [25][12] put in numerical order on both occasions
  • "vocals. She gained confidence" → "vocals, while she gained confidence"
  • "recording the album." → "recording Kylie Minogue."
  • "chief producer, and produced four tracks on the album:" → "chief producer and produced four of the tracks:"
  • [28] should be solely at the end of the para since it is used for both the penultimate and last sentences
  • Remove comma after Power Station
  • "outside the United Kingdom." → "outside the UK."
  • [28][21] put in numerical order
  • No source says specifically that "Intuition" was recorded during those sessions
  • "work with SAW, and" → "work with SAW and"
  • [31][19] put in numerical order on both occasions
  • Identify the duo name of Pete Heller and Terry Farley
  • "Label mate M People" → "Minogue's label mate M People"
  • "for the album but" → "for Kylie Minogue, but"
  • [28][19] put in numerical order on both occasions
  • "on the final album are" → "on the album are"
  • Remove comma after "Time Will Pass You By"
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Music and lyrics

  • Remove comma before that
  • Elements of hip hop, acid jazz and club music are also listed by PopMatters; shouldn't you mention these?
Great catch! Added to the paragraph. Damian Vo (talk) 04:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • [32][13] put in numerical order
  • "wrote that the record is" → "wrote that the album is"
  • "found the album includes" → "found Kylie Minogue includes"
  • "described the album as" → "describe the album as" because that is a biography quote, not an online source one
  • Digital Spy should not be italicised
  • "dance productions, and tracks" → "dance productions and tracks"
  • "embrace of
    club music
    that emulates"
  • Target 12" to Twelve-inch single
  • Audio sample looks good!
  • "The album opens with" → "Kylie Minogue opens with"
  • The first source mentions the song's indie pop elements, rather than indie itself or dance-pop
  • "features an orchestral arrangement by" → "features an arrangement by" per the source
  • "because of the interpolations" → "because of the interpolation" with the target
  • Add the liner notes before [38], as they are needed for a source of the name he is credited under
  • Remove target on Balearic pop
  • "jazz, and R&B-influences," → "jazz and R&B-influences,"
  • Why is [13] here when it offers no mention of the track?
The track is mentioned: "the sensuous jazz entreaties of “Surrender” and “Automatic Love”". Damian Vo (talk) 04:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • [35][34] put in numerical order
  • Wikilink Tia Carrere
  • [13] calls the track disco and acid jazz-based so reword accordingly, plus why is [14] here when it backs up nothing again?
  • Wikilink
    MOS:LINK2SECT
  • Target trip-hop to Trip hop
  • Why is [14] here when it does not back up any of the sentence?
  • [35][40][34] put in numerical order
  • "is a ballad" → "is a chilled-out track" per the source calling it this and not a ballad
  • "that showed Minogue" → "that show Minogue" but none of this sentence is backed up by the source
From the source: "sensuous jazz entreaties of 'Surrender' and 'Automatic Love'. These ballads had Minogue eager in her burgeoning womanhood". Damian Vo (talk) 04:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • [13] should solely be at the end of the sentence
  • "Minogue whispered the lyrics" → "Minogue whispers the lyrics" because this is about the song itself, not its recording
  • Again, [13] does not back up the material of the last two sentences of this para
From the source: “Where Has the Love Gone?” and “Falling”, tempestuous uptempos, veered from the traditional CD length; letting the arrangements breathe, the songs were deliciously fussy with lines like "I'm a woman and I've got my vanity". Damian Vo (talk) 04:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "encapsulated Minogue's trademark" → "encapsulates Minogue's trademark" but only the piano house part is sourced
From the source: "Minogue's trademark “joie de vivre” that encapsulated her "Smilie Kylie" days (think "Got To Be Certain") got a sophisticated makeover on the salty swing of “If I Was Your Lover” and the grinning “Time Will Pass You By”." Damian Vo (talk) 04:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Artwork and release

  • Retitle to Artwork and title
Oops! Damian Vo (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Img looks good!
  • "shot the album's artwork," → "shot the artwork for Kylie Minogue,"
  • "lasted for seven hours" → "lasted for around six or seven hours" per the source
  • Target androgynous to Androgyny
  • [43] should be at the end of the para rather than the last two sentences, but keep in the other areas due to the different refs being used
  • ""delightful" adding the album" → ""delightful", adding Kylie Minogue"
  • "and that the cover is" → "further writing that the cover is"
  • "felt the cover reflects" → "feel the cover reflects"
  • "which they compared" → "which they compare"
  • "commented that Minogue's image" → "comments that Minogue's image"
  • "Smith felt the simple title" → "Smith feels the simple title"
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Release and promotion

  • Img looks good!
  • "and European countries by" → "and other European countries by"
  • "and in Australia" → "and in Australia simultaneously" to be specific
  • "on 21 October 1994 with" → "on 21 October 1994 by the former of the two labels with"
  • Wikilink
    bonus tracks
    per MOS:LINK2SECT
  • Remove comma after the brackets
  • Introduce Enjoy Yourself as being her second studio album
  • "and Geffen Records dropped" → "with Geffen Records dropping"
  • Target BMG to Bertelsmann Music Group
  • [59][60] should solely be at the end of the para together, as this pair is used for the last two sentences
  • "including Minogue's album, which was scheduled in" → "including the album, which was scheduled for"
  • "It was re-released in Australia" → "Kylie Minogue was re-released in Australia" since this is a new para
  • "B-sides, and a" → "B-sides and a" with the target
  • "unreleased track titled" → "unreleased track, titled"
  • Wikilink reissued
  • Target vinyl to Phonograph record
  • "as white vinyl" → "as a white vinyl"
  • "Kylie Minogue appears on" → "Kylie Minogue appear on"
  • "while Minogue's recorded there." → "while Minogue recorded there."
  • [70][57] put in numerical order
  • "Debbie Harry-theme photoshoot" → "Debbie Harry-themed photoshoot"
  • New York Factory → the Factory studio
  • [57] should be only at the end of the para instead of the last two sentences, as it backs both up (keep in other areas though)
  • Remove wikilink on coffee table book
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 05:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Singles

  • Wikilink lead single on the img text, plus a second full-stop is needed
  • "Her cover of "Nothing Can Stop Us" and "If You Don't Love Me" and" → "Her covers of "Nothing Can Stop Us" and "If You Don't Love Me", alongside"
  • Remove target on B-side
  • "Farley and Heller (billed as Fire Island) featured" → "Fire Island featured"
  • Wikilink music video
  • "and reaching number 10 in France and number 39 on the US Billboard Dance Club Songs chart." → "while reaching numbers 10 and 39 in France and on the US Billboard Dance Club Songs chart, respectively."
  • Correct name the Australia chart the ARIA Singles Chart
  • [29][8][9] put in numerical order
  • Remove comma after film
  • "reached number eleven in" → "narrowly missed the top 10, reached number 11 in both" per
    MOS:NUM
  • Neither of the first two sentences of the last para are backed up by [13]
From the source: Whispers of an attempted U.S. breach with “If I Was Your Lover” did not come to fruition. Minogue began to consider “Time Will Pass You By” as her concluding single..."
  • ""Where Is The Feeling?" was planned" → "The song was planned" but why does "The" start with capitalisation here but not elsewhere?
  • The last sentence is not backed up by ref 13; I just did some research and saw that page 2 sources it though, so you can add a citation for that here and maybe for the other info using a ref name; I don't know since I did not look through it in great detail yet
The site has since merged two pages of the article into one :D Damian Vo (talk) 05:39, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception

  • Retitle to Reception, as there is a list of awards at the end of the section
  • "received generally positive reviews from music critics." → "was met with generally positive reviews from music critics." with the target
  • [33][17] put in numerical order
  • "off with ease."" → "off with ease"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • "classy", and "remarkably" → "classy" and "remarkably"
  • A number of these are reviews not available on online pages; should some be in the present tense, as I'm not entirely sure honestly?
I used the past tense for all the reviews, same as two other articles that you previously reviewed (Rhythm of Love, Let's Get to It). Damian Vo (talk) 05:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove target on Classic Pop
  • "previous albums, and concluded" → "previous albums and concluded"
  • "found the recording" → "found the album"
  • Mention Jonathan Bernstein of Spin by name
  • "mid-tempo material was the" → "mid-tempo material is the"
  • Cite page 2 for [13] yet again; plus the Madonna parts are mostly not sourced
The site has already merged two pages into one :D Damian Vo (talk) 05:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Harrison concluded the records" → "Harrison concluded that the records"
  • Make the ARIA Music Awards a separate para, as this is fine when there is not enough content to start a sub-section
  • "for "Confide In Me", and" → "for "Confide In Me" and"
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 05:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial performance

  • Does the PopMatters source really back up the album receiving moderate success?
  • "her fifth top-ten entry." → "her fifth top-10 entry on the UK Albums Chart." per MOS:NUM, with the wikilink
  • [91][8] put in numerical order
  • "It fell to number thirteen the following week, and" → "It fell to number 13 the following week and"
  • Add BPI in brackets for the certification body
  • "certified it gold within a month of its release" → "certified Kylie Minogue gold within a month of the album's release"
  • Mention that it sold those copies in the UK
  • "on the UK Albums Chart, and" → "on the UK Albums Chart and"
  • "the album had previously peaked" → "Kylie Minogue had previously peaked"
  • "spent 11 weeks on the chart." → "spent 11 weeks on the ARIA Albums chart."
  • "the eighty-fourth best-selling album of the year" → "the 84th best-selling album of 1994"
  • Add ARIA in brackets for the certification body
  • Mention that it sold those copies in Australia
  • "the album peaked at" → "Kylie Minogue peaked at"
  • [102][53] put in numerical order
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Track listing

  • [28][38] put in numerical order
Done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:09, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel

Done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Charts

  • Good

Certifications and sales

  • Good

Release history

  • Maybe add an edition col since there were a number of different ones?
I think it may be unnecessary. The only different editions are the standard and special (in 2003), since the re-releases are all the same. Regional ones are already reflected by the "region" col. Damian Vo (talk) 06:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See also

  • Good

References

Footnotes

  • Top job with the archiving wherever possible!
  • Regarding my comments about ref 13, it is obvious that page 2 is being used as a source at points so either add that as a separate ref or use an appropriate parameter for specifying the two pages of this source
  • Cite Blogcritics as publisher instead for ref 14
  • WP:OVERLINK
    of The Guardian on ref 23
  • WP:OVERLINK of Idolator on refs 30 and 46
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 37
  • WP:OVERLINK of PopMatters on ref 40
  • WP:OVERLINK of Deconstruction on refs 54 and 55
  • WP:OVERLINK of Official Charts Company on ref 66
  • Cite Junkee as publisher instead for ref 75
All done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

  • Good; don't think overlink applies here since they are not numerically sorted like refs

External links

  • Good

Final comments and verdict

  •  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that review took a while but was definitely worth it! --K. Peake 20:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I believe I have addressed all your comments above. Thanks again for reviewing yet another lengthy article of mine with such detailed comments and dedication. Damian Vo (talk) 06:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Damian Vo ✓ Pass now, I too am appreciative of you for your responses always being so timely and accurate! --K. Peake 11:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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