Talk:List of Haverford College people
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[Why this list?]
isnt a big list of alumni with little info about the college kind of odd?
- Yes.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 10:20, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- No. There is a major article about the College to which this list is merely ancillary. The point is that an exceptionally small undergraduate institution (not a university), with a very limited number of alumni, nevertheless has an extraordinary number of graduates who are notable or distinguished in their accomplishments.PDGPA (talk) 16:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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Carnegie Endowment
Is this something other than the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (Washington, DC) ? (It is good to have an explanation of the distinction of this college with only 40 years of history.)--Johnsoniensis (talk) 20:57, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Elimination of many names by ElKevbo in Feb 2022
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- No, let's keep the conversation here where other editors who watch this article can more easily participate. ElKevbo (talk) 05:13, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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My comment on your proposed slimming of the
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- It's certainly not true that "this list could easily [include] thousands of people." Haverford College is tiny and has no graduate schools. For the first hundred years of its existence (from 1833) it graduated fewer than 100 a year (many fewer at first), and fewer than 200 annually until the 1980s. Even then the college expanded to under 1500 total undergraduates, and thus added 350 or so new alumni per year. The number of "notables" cannot arithmetically possibly be in the "thousands." PDGPA (talk) 05:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- If you disagree with "has a Wikipedia article and is therefore clearly notable," what criteria do you propose for entries in this list article? ElKevbo (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- First, I would love to hear from others, rather than this be just a back-and-forth between the two of us. As I think I already explained, it seems to me that "notable by virtue of having a Wikipedia article about them" is both over- and under-inclusive. My initial thought for an alternative standard would be to try to keep on the list any alum of the institution who has made a significant contribution in any field of endeavor, or has received a significant public honor in any field, as documented either by a Wikipedia article or by reliable and independent sources of the kind that Wikipedia expects, set forth in footnoted references. PDGPA (talk) 19:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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- First, I would love to hear from others, rather than this be just a back-and-forth between the two of us. As I think I already explained, it seems to me that "notable by virtue of having a Wikipedia article about them" is both over- and under-inclusive. My initial thought for an alternative standard would be to try to keep on the list any alum of the institution who has made a significant contribution in any field of endeavor, or has received a significant public honor in any field, as documented either by a Wikipedia article or by reliable and independent sources of the kind that Wikipedia expects, set forth in footnoted references. PDGPA (talk) 19:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- If you disagree with "has a Wikipedia article and is therefore clearly notable," what criteria do you propose for entries in this list article? ElKevbo (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's certainly not true that "this list could easily [include] thousands of people." Haverford College is tiny and has no graduate schools. For the first hundred years of its existence (from 1833) it graduated fewer than 100 a year (many fewer at first), and fewer than 200 annually until the 1980s. Even then the college expanded to under 1500 total undergraduates, and thus added 350 or so new alumni per year. The number of "notables" cannot arithmetically possibly be in the "thousands." PDGPA (talk) 05:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)