Talk:Michael Collins (politician, born 1968)

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On 16 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be

Michael Collins (Independent Ireland). The result of the discussion

was moved.

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I called it Michael Collins (independent politician) as Michael Collins (Cork politician) refers to the 1910s-20s guy. Debbiesw (talk) 16:30, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think you meant to write something like "I would have called it", because you didn't call it Michael Collins (independent politician), which is not a good name either: both D. Michael Collins and Michael Collins (Limerick politician) were independents for at least some of their careers. I agree that Michael Collins (Cork politician) is more likely to mean Michael Collins (Irish leader), but simplest is to point that back to the DAB page. I have moved this page to Schull politician, though independent Cork politician or politician born 19xx might also work as disambiguators. jnestorius^(talk) 17:26, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Schull politician) is a reasonable solution, though I was going to propose leaving it at (Cork politician) and adding a hatnote linking to (Irish leader). I don't think anybody would call the Big Fellow a "Cork politician". — Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 17:41, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moved. To alternate suggested title Michael Collins (politician, born 1968) (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann ^(Talk) 15:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Collins (Schull politician) → Michael Collins (Independent Ireland): What is Schull? Is that where he is from? I would say it’s quite hard right now to find this article. Given that there is a very notable Irish leader with the same name, I believe adding the parties name to disambiguate this article would suffice. The Optimistic One (talk) 02:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Rename to Michael Collins (politician, born 1968) or Michael Collins (Independent Ireland politician). Schull is apparently just where he was born and therefore an awful disambiguator. But he's certainly not an Independent Ireland. -- 10:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Rename to Michael Collins (politician, born 1968). While Schull is a nice town, I don't think it works as a disambiguator. Oppose (Independent Ireland) option. Spleodrach (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Michael Collins (politician, born 1968) per above. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to
Michael Collins (Schull politician)" construct was created for consistency with Michael Collins (Dublin politician) and Michael Collins (Limerick politician) (and because "Michael Collins (Cork politician)" would've been an incomplete DAB), I agree that place of birth, in this case, is a less-than-ideal disambiguator. Necrothesp's proposal is consistent with other norms and precedent (including Michael Collins (footballer, born 1977), Michael Collins (rugby union, born 1974), etc). Guliolopez (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Rename to Michael Collins (politician, born 1968). Iveagh Gardens (talk) 18:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.