Talk:Nat Geo Wild

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:34, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay well please cite an official document from the channel's owner that

proves "Nat Geo Wild" is its official title and not National Geographic Wild. TomCat4680 (talk) 00:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply

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See WP:Official names. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - I'm not too familiar with this channel, but I believe "Nat Geo Wild" is correct per
  WP:COMMONNAME. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply
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• Support. Agree that Nat Geo Wild is the
  most common name. In 2011 there were 277 news articles mentioning "Nat Geo Wild", compared to 41 for "National Geographic Wild". Jenks24 (talk) 06:22, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply
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I said from the actual channel itself, not a bunch of news articles. BTW the channel's website is animals.nationalgeographic.com. TomCat4680 (talk) 06:26, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is why Eagles linked you to WP:Official names above. In a nutshell, we don't use the official name to title articles, we use the most common name in reliable sources. Jenks24 (talk) 07:11, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay well why isn't the

To quote from the relevant

principal naming criteria: recognisability, naturalness, precision, conciseness and consistency. Can you explain why the proposed title would be worse than the current title in respect to those criteria? (And just as an FYI, Pennsylvania State University does seem to be more common than Penn State [1].) Jenks24 (talk) 08:33, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply

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If the rule has exceptions, why should we have it at all? Either have articles under their official names, or have them under their common names; you can't have it both ways because of something you found on Google. TomCat4680 (talk) 15:27, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All rules on Wikipedia

have exceptions. If you think I'm trying to "have it both ways because of something [I] found on Google", then you've completely misunderstood my comments and I don't think I can help you any further. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 06:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply

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The result of the proposal was not moved. The same rationale was raised and discussed in the prior move request, immediately above. If there is a good reason to move this back, it has not been articulated here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:57, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nat Geo Wild → National Geographic Wild – I think the previous move should be reverted because National Geographic Wild is the channel's full name. Nat Geo Wild is just a nickname. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 16:05, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per

WP:COMMONNAME, even if it is a nickname National Geographic are happy to use it in its logo. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 00:10, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply

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No consensus. See no general agreement to rename this page back to its original title. This article was originally titled by the proposed full name; and yet, "Nat Geo Wild" has been its title since 2012, so for now, that is the title that remains. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can strengthen their args and try again in a few months to garner consensus for this name change. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  19:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nat Geo Wild → National Geographic Wild – Did they change the name to the full name, "National Geographic Wild"? I've been seeing ads and a new screen bug on their channel, and their Facebook page also shows a new logo. JE98 (talk) 01:48, 14 July 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Hhkohh (talk) 12:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:18, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: Nat Geo Wild's Facebook page is still using the abbreviated denomination in both name and on-screen logo on their videos. --Bankster (talk) 05:33, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: Since the owner of the trademarks isn't consistently using one or the other, we should prefer the
  MOS:TM: We do not mimic stylized logos, and just use a plain-English version of a trademark when one is available.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  08:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC); MOS:TM note added, 11:41, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose. Their website still uses the abbreviated form for this channel and this is the
  WP:COMMONNAME. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:19, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  "this is the

  WP:CONCISE, the least important of the criteria, especially when it conflicts with recognizability.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:41, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply

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  Their current Facebook profile picture does say "National Geographic Wild", but their facebook handle is "@natgeowild", and their display name is "Nat Geo Wild". And in their Facebook about section they refer to themselves as "Nat Geo Wild" twice. It looks like the facebook picture with the new logo was uploaded on July 12. Perhaps this indicates they are in the process of rebranding the channel, but until we have something more definitive, we should leave the article where it is. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:41, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per SMcCandlish. We should stray away from using the abbreviations. Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:53, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By that logic we should move

WP:COMMONNAME, and this article's current name is the common name. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply

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• Oppose - as strange sounding as this name is, it appears to be correct: [2] [3] [4]. National Geographic Society is the name of the organisation which provides the channel, but I can't find any sources to say the channel name is an abbreviation of "National Geographic Wild" or that this is a past or proposed future name for the channel. I recognise "Nat Geo" obviously comes from National Geographic, but that's just the source of the name. jamacfarlane (talk) 23:01, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. I haven't seen any real evidence to this point of which is the common name, but "Nat Geo Wild" gets about 90K Google News hits, while "National Geographic Wild" gets under 4K. It also wins on Google Trends. I don't see any compelling reason to change the title at this point. Dekimasuよ! 21:39, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom and above. "Nat Geo" is short for 'National Geographic', the name of the channel and the Society, and no need to nickname the background entities. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:58, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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