Talk:Our Lady of the Pillar

Page contents not supported in other languages.
Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

File:Pilar2.jpg Nominated for Deletion

An image used in this article, File:Pilar2.jpg, has been nominated for deletion at Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests March 2012
What should I do?

Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so.

  • If the image is
    non-free
    then you may need to upload it to Wikipedia (Commons does not allow fair use)
  • If the image isn't freely licensed and there is no
    fair use rationale
    then it cannot be uploaded or used.

To take part in any discussion, or to review a more detailed deletion rationale please visit the relevant image page (File:Pilar2.jpg)

This is Bot placed notification, another user has nominated/tagged the image --

talk) 08:15, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply
]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on

nobots
|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check
}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

Cheers.—

Talk to my owner:Online 15:34, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply
]

pre-1723 traditions?

Apparently, the tradition of the Marian apparition can be traced to the 15th century, but the Spanish article only references the existence of "bas-reliefs" showing the scene dated to the 1430s. I am looking for written traditions older than 1723 which describe the apparition, and especially for evidence of the 12 October date prior to 1723 (es-wiki cites 1613 as its first introduction but has no reference on that). --

dab (𒁳) 12:34, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply
]

Specifically, what was the role of Calixtus III, and can we get the text of his 1456 bull somewhere? I am asking because this bull does not appear to be mentioned, at all, in the much more extensive article on
dab (𒁳) 14:33, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
answer, this does not establish the tradition of the apparition, just the existence of the image. Nougués y Secall is an "apologetic" source, presenting (rather indirect) evidence of the tradition going back to the 1st century, but this is not, apparently, relevant to the tradition of the apparition itself. --
dab (𒁳) 15:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply
]

Patroness

Hello, I've just deleted the mention as Patroness of Spain (being the Immaculate Conception of Mary) and of Hispanic World (being Our Lady of Guadalupe), but added the Patroness of the Spanish region of Aragon and its capital Zaragoza. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.240.28.74 (talk) 11:31, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Supposed death of Mary

  • The year AD 40 is the earliest recognised Marian apparition in the Catholic Church, dating to a time when Mary, the mother of Jesus, was still alive.

This seems to assume that Mary died later, but my understanding of the Assumption of Mary is that she was taken bodily to Heaven, and the Church has never pronounced definitively on whether or not she ever died at all. Pope Pius XII's 1950 declaration "leaves open the question of whether Mary died or whether she was raised to eternal life without bodily death". -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 18:23, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Our_Lady_of_the_Pillar&oldid=1204478605"