Talk:Outline of Buddhism

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This listing seems to have a massive Theravada bias. There are only a handful of Mahayana entries, & none at all for the largest Mahayana school, if not the largest Buddhist school, Pure Land. Peter jackson (talk) 10:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because I am a Theravadin and don't have enough knowledge about Mahayana, so I trust that other users will improve the Mahayana coverage of this article. I apologize if this creates a "massive Theravada bias".

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I'll copy your response to the project talk page so people know. Peter jackson (talk) 11:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I have included some Mahayana concepts. That's why it's a wiki, because others can edit and improve on the topics they are familiar with. Since I am not familiar with Mahayana, I thought I'd rather let those who are, improve the article.

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What do you think? Is it OK now?

talk) 20:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply

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It's certainly a good deal better. Probably not perfect, but I'm not going to go on about it. I came here & commented because the issue had been raised at the project. That notice is still there, so anyone else can see it, come here, & maybe make their own changes. Peter jackson (talk) 10:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This could use some refinements, but overall it's a monster piece of work Eu Stefan. Well done.Sylvain1972 (talk) 20:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few items in the "Mahayana / Vajrayana" section that simply are not just Mahayana / Vajrayana, such as "intermediate state" (antarabhava), "own nature" (svabhava), "dharma nature" (dharmata / dharmadhatu), and others. Huifeng (talk) 11:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1. in a sense intermediate state is Mahayana, since Theravada rejects it, i.e. only Mahayana now believes in it
2. this is only Mahayana in the sense that they're the ones who go on about it, though only to reject it; Theravada doesn't talk about it much
3. although there are Pali words dhammata & dhammadhatu, they tend not to be used in such philosophical senses (indeed you might say in general that Theravada doesn't go in for abstract philosophy much)

Peter jackson (talk) 11:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it should be divided into smaller articles; and "outline" is supposed to be simple.--Elvenmuse (talk) 02:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is very long, that is true. But I think it is good this way nonetheless. It actually is relatively simple despite being long. And it's an outline of a massive, complicated topic, so the length is unavoidable. As such, it's a pretty amazing piece of work. To divide it up would be to defeat the purpose, in my view.Sylvain1972 (talk) 03:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Sylvain, and would extend his point to other areas, such as mathematics and phsyics, where at present we have a tangle of articles cross-linking to each other, but with very little sign of a hierarchy from general principles down to details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.125.188 (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos to whoever did such a great job of compiling the list of mental factors under this heading Outline of Buddhism#Formations (Saṅkhāra • Saṃskāra).

I've created a separate article for this factors here: Mental factors (Buddhism). Since I am updating these terms and their corresponding wikilinks in the other article, I am going to remove these factors from this outline to avoid having to maintain duplicate lists. I'll wait a couple of days before making the move, in case anyone has any objections. Dorje108 (talk) 03:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe better also maintain the list here. It's an incredible long article, but it's very useful as a quick look-up list for Buddhist terms. Maybe. Groet, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 11:33, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to remove this list from the outline. You could easily update it once you've finished editing the list in your article.

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Reply: Thanks for the feedback. I'll leave the lists in the outline, but I will create a separate header in the outline for "Mental factors", so that I can reference the main article more clearly. Dorje108 (talk) 03:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the section on the Four Noble truths, note that:

• Samudaya sacca is not the same thing as Taṇhā
  . Tanha is identified as the cause of suffering in the first teaching, but in other suttas, the Buddha used elaborated on the fist teaching and described the origin if suffering in different ways (e.g. the twelve links). In the Abhidharma teachings, the cause of suffering is identified as the three unwholesome roots (Theravada) or Three Poisons (Mahayana).
• Nirodha sacca is not the same thing as Nirvana
  . Nirvana is described as the state or experience that occurs after cessation happens.

Regards, Dorje108 (talk) 22:03, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest adding Nirvana as a main topic directly following "Rebirth". Sub-topics: nirvana during life; nirvana after death. - Dorje108 (talk) 22:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The RfC by Dorje108 states that:

"I propose that texts written by Buddhist writers and teachers that explain basic Buddhist concepts should be considered secondary sources as long as they meet the criteria specified in the guidelines (regardless of whether or not the writer has Western academic training). Do you support this?"

Please see: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Buddhism

Robert Walker (talk) 07:46, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Wikipedia:Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 23:51, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have never edited wikipedia pages before, but I would like to add some new content on this page that has been very usefull to me. Let me know if would be OK to add :

- Sutta Pitaka quotes for every sets of concepts (moslty using references from this work and sutta expepts from suttacentral.net) If possible this would be done in a collapsable block under the sets titles.

- Some structure and order for the sets (related to the following point)

- My main goal is to make a chart I've been working on and add it on the page. You can see a early version (sketch) with lots of spellings mistakes... at this adress.

Let me know if it is ok, thanks. Cittadhammo (talk) 13:40, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There should probably be an explanation as to why that artwork is on this page, right? I had to do a bit of clicking to find out what the connection was. Suomi13 (talk) 01:07, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I only see your comment now. Thank you very much.

I was able to add the final artwork to the page. I am planning to update the list and pali term at some point. Maybe I could add some description as well. Cittadhammo (talk) 09:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]