Talk:PanzerBlitz

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The main question I have with the current text is just how close the original S&T game was to the AH PanzerBlitz. If it was the same rules with new scenarios and maps (did TG3 have geomophic maps?), fine enough. If the rules got an extensive overhaul (which seems likely with Dunnigan) I'd rate them as separate games. Which would just make PB the direct decendant of the first tactical game, and the second one overall. --Rindis 19:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd have to check my reference. I have a copy of PanzerBlitz, but not TG3. My source was an anniversary issue of Strategy & Tactics, IIRC, which gave the whole rundown of lineage that I used as the basis of the article on the history of

tactical wargames. Off the top of my head, it seems to me that Dunnigan designed the original and Avalon Hill simply published it in box form, but I've never seen the original - never even seen a picture of it. Will depend on how the magazine article describes it.Michael Dorosh 19:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply

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Exactly my problem. I've never seen anything say enough to know one way or another. :) --Rindis 20:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've since obtained a copy of Tac Game 3 thanks to Alan Arvold; I'll be posting articles on both at http://www.tacticalwargamer.com - no real surprises, but nice to lay hands on the originals for study, review, and comparison. I've since also completed my collection of original issues of Moves (magazine) which had some articles on both games. Enlightening stuff.Michael Dorosh^Talk 19:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically, this masterpiece was designed by James F. Dunnigan who later became a major designer for SPI, a competing company noted for its emphasis on highly detailed simulations.

...not really ironic. James F. Dunnigan FOUNDED SPI. He went out on his own and published several more wargames than Avalon Hill, though they weren't quite as polished (the game maps were paper only - at least the ones my friends and I bought). —The preceding

Does the Unit Scale as given in the article apply to the Tactical Game 3 edition? Because it's certainly incorrect for Panzer Blitz where unit scale is Platoons for the Germans and Companies for the Russians. Generally speaking PB is a Platoon level game. Considering how the TG3 information was only added recently I assume the original scale given was incorrect.--Caranorn 18:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've never actually played PB (blush), so I went with the source I had at hand, which said 'company'. (Presumably because of the Russians.) From what I can tell, TG3 was the same rules (minus the inevitable revisions), and used the same map as another game that was in the same issue of S&T (instead of the AH ones). Presumably that adds up to the same unit scale.... Thanks for correcting me! --Rindis 20:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, no problem. It's really a classic, I have several copies and used to play at least occasionally. If there is anything you need looked up in the official game material let me know.--Caranorn 22:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's see, there's three boards, so there's 3 x 2 x 1 ways to assemble the boards, but each one can be rotated 180 degrees, so there's really (3 x 2) x (2 x 2) x (1 x 2) = 48. BUT, that's just if you set them up with the long edges touching. You could also set them up with the short edges touching, which I think gives you 48 more. And, to make it more complicated, I think there were some scenarios which only used 1 or 2 boards, so there's even more combinations. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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