Talk:Philip of Sweden

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Name issues in 2006

Show us any respectable source which uses "Philip Halsten". This monster creature for a name seems to be a product of Wikipedia. Hope no more inexpertised people perpetuate this. Marrtel 12:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, it should be

WP:RS ? The MoS is normative but No Original Research and Reliable Sources are prescriptive. In any case, the use of patronyms reduces confusion in the case of Early and High Medieval Scandinavia, and others, where primogeniture is not common. Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply

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Well, I am no friend of patronymics in aticle names, except in Russian context. I regard a patronymic similar to a nickname, and to be used only in limited circumstances. Well, he is king "Philip of Sweden", thus no dspute should arise whether that is correct or not. Marrtel 13:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Patronymics and epithets are perfectly good ways of disambiguating people, widely used by historians. They are especially common for Medieval Scandinavia, far more so than the arbitrary and inaccurate regnal numbers concocted in the distant past. I can find two or three reliable sources which call the subject Filip Halstensson, The Cambridge History of Scandinavia for example. Apart from the MoS, what backing is there for the article name you have chosen ? Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. 7 22:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Halstensson → Philip of Sweden — Phonetically difficult Swedish patronymics have been removed from all other article names of Swedish monarchs. Kíngs' articles should not have nondescript names that look like they are out of a Stockholm phone book - Joe Schmoe. There has been no other Philip of Sweden, but many different Philip Halstenssons. Above all, consistency please! SergeWoodzing (talk) 05:18, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply

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The conventional name referred to when this was last moved is a Swedish-language name. This king is virtually unknown in English literature. SergeWoodzing (talk) 05:24, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I wanted to do this myself, but for some reason it wouldn't go through. SergeWoodzing (talk) 05:20, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait for the RFC to finish. An admin will have to do the move after the 1 week RFC is over. 7 05:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- You were not able to move it yourself because the article was already titled Philip of Sweden until User:Berig moved it to the current title in June 2007. Surtsicna (talk) 15:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support for consistency with other articles. Rejectwater (talk) 12:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support for consistency with articles about other Swedish monarchs and other European monarchs as well. Surtsicna (talk) 15:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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