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Today, Red Bull Racing made a statement reading, "Following its investigation into an online incident involving Juri Vips, Oracle Red Bull Racing has terminated Juri's contract as its test & reserve driver. The team do not condone any form of racism." Now that Vips is clearly no longer a part of the team, would it not be proper to remove his listing as a test and reserve driver from this page? Thanks. Fivesecpenalty (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DragonFury: I meant "only" as in "merely". "Red Bull Powertrains/Honda operated engines" incorrectly implies that the engines are operated by Red Bull and Honda, and it does not imply who makes the engines. "Red Bull Powertrains-badged Honda engines" makes it clear that they are Honda engines that are badged as Red Bull. Do you not agree? Carfan568 (talk) 19:08, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The implication isn't incorrect in my opinion. The engines are built in Japan by Honda, and RBPT receives a substantial amount of support from Honda in running the engines, hence why Honda recently increased their branding on the 2022 cars. Perhaps the word operated is the issue here? Honda-supported would be a more accurate description, but "Red Bull Powertrains operated/Honda supported engines" is a mouthful for a section header. DragonFury (talk) 19:14, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What is the problem with "Red Bull Powertrains-badged Honda engines"? The engines are still Honda in all but name, and the same wording is also used for 2016–2018, when the team had Renault engines that were badged as TAG Heuer, which was a similar situation to the current one. Carfan568 (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Red Bulls didn't carry any Renault branding during the TAG-Heuer era, and were essentially a customer team with Renault having their own works team (now Alpine). In contrast, the current Red Bulls still carry Honda branding, and the relationship with Honda is much more akin to that of a works team rather than simply a customer. The difference in the relationship should be reflected in the section header, perhaps something like "Honda-supported Red Bull engines"? DragonFury (talk) 21:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Honda-supported Red Bull engines" would imply, at least to me, that they are more like fully fledged Red Bull engines with Honda giving them support, when in fact Red Bull isn't really properly involved with them currently. How about "RBPT-badged works Honda engines"? I think that might be the most concise way of stating the relevant information. Carfan568 (talk) 22:39, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good one, I'm fine with that as section header. DragonFury (talk) 11:17, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the 11th to 2nd because he got that place in f1
The image for Oracle RBR has been deleted and so the infobox needs a new image. Should I maybe upload one? Will be fair use. Super yoshi013021 (talk) 18:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
