Talk:Siberian crane

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. . Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved. I personally disagree with the currently enshrined title case exception for bird names from all other animals but doing them piecemeal will not ...ahem... fly.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:33, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Move to lowercase title. -
  talk) 01:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose - proper noun. Please note that it is correct to write either "Siberian cranes are commonly seen in marshes" and "Siberian Cranes are commonly seen in marshes". The first sentences says that you can commonly see cranes (of any variety) in Siberia in marshes, the second sentence explicitly states that you can commonly see the type of crane known as a Siberian Crane in marshes, and does not indicate whether the marsh is in Siberia or somewhere else. Apteva (talk) 04:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Other animal articles don't seem troubled by this ambiguity. See, for example, American black bear, Common basilisk, and King crab. --BDD (talk) 18:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Other animals use a different naming convention than birds. Bird names use all capital letters. All other animals only capitalize the first word of the name. If you ask me that is the strange way of picking names. It turns out that the scientific name uses two parts, a genus, which is a proper noun, and is always capitalized, and a species, which is an adjective and therefore not capitalized. Put them together and you get the name of a species. Is that a proper noun or is it a common noun? In the case of birds the convention is to capitalize the whole name. In the case of animals the convention is to capitalize the first word only. What kind of proper noun has two words and only one of them is capitalized? The name of an animal species. Apteva (talk) 05:38, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support You're absolutely right, but this isn't going to happen. Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds prefers the current capitalization for all bird species. This seems to have been upheld in practice, despite the policy that "participants in a WikiProject cannot decide that some generally accepted policy or guideline does not apply to articles within its scope." See Talk:Wild Turkey#Requested move. --BDD (talk) 18:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The best way to deal with this is Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (capitalization)#Proposal - bird names. It is pointless to discuss this individually. Apteva (talk) 04:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.