Talk:Spring Awakening (musical)
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Synopsis
If anyone who has seen the show is on here, could you give a summary of the show song by song and explain what happens in each one? that would be great. Posted by User:MyJunkIsYou, 21:02, 27 December 2006.
- There is now a synopsis, but it's pretty long and rambling. Can anyone tighten it up? -- Ssilvers 14:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
The Synopsis section definitely needs to be shortened.
I've seen the play but it was kind of hard to see because the person who bought my tickets bought really bad seats. Iluvbuffbabiez (talk) 06:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)iluvbuffbabiez
Infobox
Yep, needs one. -- Annie D 09:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Lacking background
I'll do what I can, but I know very little and haven't seen the whole thing (only excerpts). Experts would be better, but at the very least, we need to add more background on the making of this musical ... explaining why it took seven years, detailing how the actors were barely into their teens in some cases when first cast (e.g., Lea Michele), explaining how it came to be made, more about the critical reception, and so forth, all using
This last bit of paragraph needs a little work:
"However in my alternate ending Melchior does attempt suicide, but Melchior hears a voice in the cemetary, he crawls over with a razor in his chest, to Morritz's grave to find Morritz, along with Melchior on the brink of death. Luckily, Wendla, alive and well, calls for help. Morritz was in the worse condition, and an inch away from truly dying. Melchior got the razor blade stuck between his arteries, and if the razor rips the arteries apart, Melchior dies. In the next scene Melchior and Morritz are about to check out of the hospital when all of a sudden the ne'er do-wells from the reform school beat them up. Wendla stabs them all with a syringe, but its too late:Morritz stobs breathing and Melchior's wound fell oppen, killing them both."
The first sentence is confusing (too many names to too many pronouns and "my"?). Some of the grammar and spelling should be checked as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.49.7.219 (talk) 00:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Article improvement
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]Cast list
Please do not add non-notable names to the replacement cast list. Unless an actor has a Wikipedia article of his or her own, the article structure guidelines at
- Shouldn't we also have a "Current cast" list? Sammi.mcclain (talk) 04:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
No. At
]Differences Between Musical and Play
In the current page, it is stated that a difference between the musical and play is that Martha and Ilse are sexually abused in the play, whereas in the musical Martha is simply physically abused.
I would disagree with this. In the musical, Martha and Ilse sing "The Dark I Know Well" in which they both imply that their respective fathers climb into bed with them and abuse them sexually. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMadjai (talk • contribs) 18:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I think it says, or should say, the opposite. I also noticed that the Differences section has now been removed altogether and I'm curious why.24.63.242.81 (talk) 03:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Themes Section
The themes section has absolutely no citiation and (I feel) doesn't accurately represent all the major themes of the play. There needs to be some reliable sources found for the major themes and a more comprehensive outline. I don't even know if "sex" would count as a theme, although the contrast in treatment of it between the older and younger generations might. 24.151.27.32 (talk) 01:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Audience
Spring Awakening is directed at adults and teen-agers from ages 13 and up. The idea is that anyone who watches it and has gone through puberty can somehow relate to on of the issues brought up in the show.
Bondage?
The page lists "bondage" as one of the reasons the original play was banned, but I can't for the life of me think of any such references in the play -- I'm tending to think it's some sort of misunderstanding stemming from the play often being said to contain S&M because of the beating scene.
If I'm just remembering correctly, someone explain where this is coming from? -- 24.92.75.201 (talk) 08:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'm just going to remove the mention. If someone can justify its being there they can put it back. 24.167.233.42 (talk) 01:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Duplicate production sections
An IP duplicated the production sections and added sub-heads, but did not delete the old material. There is nothing wrong with the old material, or for that matter, the previous structure. Since the IP has not indicated his/her intent with these duplications, I am deleting at this time some of the duplicates (to make it clear, this is duplicate material that I am deleting). I shall re-visit this article at a later time; sorry to remove what has been some work on the part of an editor (s), but this kind of work does not make this article better. It would be helpful if the IP would indicate their intent with an edit summary or note on the talk page.
- I have removed the repeated information about subsequent and international productions, which was also laid out by creating many stubby sections. There will be many, many productions of this musical. The most important thing is to include references to ]
I think amateur productions, like the regional australia one in Victoria and South Australia should be removed. Stick to only professional productions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.72.251.199 (talk) 01:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Two questions about the redirect
(1) Why does the musical get the main namespace instead of the source material? And (2) are talk pages for redirects supposed to be redirected as well? I thought they were supposed to stay on their own page in case there needs to be discussion about the redirect. Aristophanes68 (talk) 01:27, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think it's super weird that the musical has the main namespace. It's a pretty important play and, as far as I can tell, a fairly minor musical. Adam (talk) 06:16, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- I altered the hatnote to include the play, but then I realized it is also in the first sentence in the lead and I'm not sure if that is redundant or not. It was my impression that the most "popular" related article to the said subject was the one that got the main namespace, but I could very easily be wrong and it's by originality not accessibility. However, if it is by reader popularity, then see Spring Awakening (play) traffic and Spring Awakening traffic – talk) @ 21:27, 2 May 2012 (UTC)]
- I altered the hatnote to include the play, but then I realized it is also in the first sentence in the lead and I'm not sure if that is redundant or not. It was my impression that the most "popular" related article to the said subject was the one that got the main namespace, but I could very easily be wrong and it's by originality not accessibility. However, if it is by reader popularity, then see Spring Awakening (play) traffic and Spring Awakening traffic –
Moritz/Ilse?
In the character descriptions, it's explicitly stated that Moritz is in love with Ilse, and she with him. I think this is very open to interpretation and should not be included in the descriptions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.46.6.117 (talk) 16:40, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I agree- Moritz and Ilse's relationship is relatively brief, and I don't think that it is something that should be expressly stated as fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hayden.osborne (talk • contribs) 18:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Removed copyvio - synopsis
The synopsis section appeared to be an exact duplicate of the synopsis from http://mtishows.com/show_detail.asp?showid=000357, so I removed it.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Musical instruments
The random mention of musical instruments (guitar, harp, piano, bass, voice) in the Broadway Revival cast listings needs to be either explained (in the chart or in the text section on the Broadway Revival) or deleted, as it currently makes no sense. Please fix. Softlavender (talk) 09:06, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
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